Indeed I would expect it would say a lot
Whether they are/are not making āheadwayā in only specific areas
Or any areas at all
Or spending all the time on new features and leaving bugs to languish ?
oh yes, when doctors talk about āsurvivingā, this is not always to be equated with a desirable condition . Still, I take my hat off to any company that survives in the market (without acting as a criminal).
Edit: the latter is potentially debatable considering the many (marketing) lies (or at least not telling the truth).
I dont think thereās anything criminal even with marketing misdirection and half truths
I think that would, at best, be taken up in a civil lawsuit should any one care to
As the post from Jeannot referred to way back thereās a difference between a liar and a bullshitter
One says
And I tend to like this sort of ādefinitionā of it as it conveys that one is intentional and deliberate
The other maybe less knowing in its commission
Marketing is probably a bit of both
At least my past experience would say it is We cant say that thats TOO straight forward and doesnt make the point we want but we COULD say ā¦
And while not an outright lie its a real stretch of the actual truth
Like ā450K usersā is possible IF you count every download as a āuserā or every download & start of Xojo as a āuserā
Iām sure somehow they could justify that number but most of us would expect it to be ācurrent unexpired licensesā - at least to me that is vastly more interesting
Sure but neither of those are criminal
Unethical - quite possibly
But nothing anyone there would go to prison for
Regardless of how people who think they have been duped might feel
I did a whole bunch for Future publishing, which were featured in both their Mac and PC magazines. But then Geoff took the eurozone internal and that gig dried up for me.
When you fire the IDE, Xojo servers are called and the āused computerā (when you have a license) is changed if you use a different computer.
Are these hits in the 450K users ?
āSameā apply for not registered usersā¦
At last, I have numerous times built an application from a computer I do not ownedā¦ (build a Windows version directly from the testing - client - Windows laptop for example).
Also, sometimes I can have the SSD with the project and no laptop with meā¦
Andā¦ upgrading an old license sometimes = same amount as a brand new license.
And the better for the end: downlicensing: I do not need a Pro license any more (nor a multi-platform license)ā¦
How do they count that ?
As already said: sometimes the same person may had more than one license in 25 years (and is alone to use it).
The most āhonestā way to compute the # of sold license is to use the license numbers (if they start at 1 and increaseā¦). But who do that ?
As I can see the IDE is only existing as long as the company exists while without internet connection it canāt check the license anymore. And that is needed from time to time.
So I guess: they count the rund and the compile pressings so they have a stable number of users
Its supposed to work since there were cases where the Xojo installer had to be put on a thumb drive, walked into a facility where the computer it would be on had no network connection to the outside world at all, and it HAD to work
Yes, as a facility manager, I would only recommend computers without internet connections for the green software. Additionally, under no circumstances should Xojo USB stick carriers be allowed to leave the building ā¦
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Definitely a bad and malvolent abuse of the word āmostā.
. Still, I take my hat off to any company that survives in the market (without acting as a criminal).
