DIRECT … NOT PRIVATE
These are Direct Messages, not Private Messages. Technically, they are not private like email.
Besides, one should never issue statements they would not dare doing in public.
without pointing to specific posts I truly dont recall seeing or reading any that were direct personal attack of the same variety
Doubt it since XojoPro IS, so far, the only person to tell me to F off - which IS what prompted the silence - not other posts
Only sense that Xojo is doing it: clean the forum that it looks always nice for new customers so they can make good business. THAT US A HUGE DIFFERENCE
I would argue that Norman’s request was unnecessary and precipitated the outburst.
Agreed.
But while “freedom of speech” doesn’t cover hate speech, insults (like “What are you? 12?”) are actually allowed under freedom of speech, while reputational damage (eg libel, character assassination, etc like calling someone a paedophile or rapist) isn’t.
FYI… “Freedom of Speech” does not apply to this (or any other forum)… There is no First Amendment protection… The owner/moderator has the complete RIGHT to do whatever he/she wishes whenever he/she wishes to do so… with the exception of creating a topic and faking who it was written by
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I rather look on the content of what is being said than on the form of how it is being said … but each to their own I guess …
Uh-oh … Klingon Battle Cruiser entering Earth’s orbit … 
That is not the point and Norman made it very clear and provided evidence.
Why wouldn’t you open your own forum and leave it completely unmoderated, all while being legally responsible for the venue?
Ignoring that I stated I find the posting of his message a worse offence?
Now what would the reaction here be if Geoff had done that …?
Yeah, @XojoPro will definitely fare well in TOF with his attitude. Watch for it and compare 
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banned for 1000 years would be happened there and a never come back ticket. That’s it on TOF.
Good to know that one should not have an “expectation of privacy” here.
Didn’t Google say that? “Our users don’t have an expectation of privacy”? Yup. They did. Didn’t sit well with me either.
Trust me: I say the same in public and private. Only exception is if I think someone might be embarrassed by what I say, then I send him a personal message.
Please don’t mix and match the points I made.
The original problem of “What are you? 12?” was blown way out of proportion by an overly sensitive and frankly hostile to XojoPro crowd. Norman should not have asked him to change that in my opinion, but he definitely should not have published what was a private conversation between them. That was completely unnecessary as he had already said that XojoPro was exceedingly rude to him.
That everyone here jumps in to declare that “nowhere is it said that messages are private” is frankly embarrassing.
Hmmmm … did you miss:
… and upvoted by Dave?
Jup. I see the difference now … 
Lynch mob mentality?
Is that why I feel a bit like Atticus?
… and in case you don’t get the reference: read or watch “To kill a Mockingbird” …
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[mine is bigger than yours 
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You win, I’m out.
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Far away from it. I didn’t said that I am in the same meaning. But it is like always. I have the feeling that you might not stop until somebody says you’re right. I fory site say good night and he is silenced and there is no banning coming up so I don’t get where you see the problem. There is no lych mob and there is no hunting. Why should Norm now ban him? He will not
Nope. But I am endlessly fascinated by why people react the way they do and how they try to justify it to themselves. Group dynamics come into play, reinforcing each other’s stance. Tolerance goes out the window quickly, calls for bans … if you want to know how lynch mobs develop - you can follow it here. The difference is the degree, but not the actual process.
And I explained how >I< see the situation.
Maybe people should step back a bit and think about that …
I’m actually at a bit of a loss as to when an ‘FU’ is justified 
And again: most people will not get that deep in any situation here. Why should they. Why do they have to. You always implement the people do that, implement that everybody is really careful thinking about every word he writes and that everything has to be exact like an exam. Be sure: it is not so. And people have no interest in that deep discussion. They loose the interest. Even if you are right in your position: you may have lost all the listeners for your discussion. As hard as it is: it is not needed that you all time try to trigger discussions to that point. Nobody needs it. I do not need it, Nobody needs it. Interesting for you to see? Possible. But it is for the rest only…
And that makes the discussions relatively fast more aggressive. Possibly you like that, I don’t know. But I think and believe that we should look above that. It is like your nice tip with deepl. Implementing I was not understanding what you wrote and therefore not correctly answering but not getting that I don’t wanted to answer you in that discussion.
There is more than only Deepl as the Discussion Midpoint. There is more than your one and only truths. Truths are that what the people can see when looking on it. May have more variations than you believe and may have more depth than you even would expect. But the people have the right to see what they want to and at the end they have the right to say what they want.
And where is the border? At the point it harms somebody. That is the definitive border. And there is also the point of this discussion. Norman was asking to edit his post. He answered with fun me, cunt. Everything was said at that point. Silenced him so he has two weeks to think about his discussion culture and the wise he reacts on things and good. When Garry wrote to me I shall edit a post I answered: I don’t want to edit this post while and then described why I don’t want to and why I will not edit. There is a massive difference.
When Norman says please edit this post that means not: Edit it or I will kill you. It means that I have the right to discuss about politely. And of coarse I can have a different meaning. A different view on things. And yes, I had such discussions with Norman. And guess what? I was not changing my point but I was explaining my point more clear and that’s it.
That was the Right of XojoPro also in that given situation. But he decided to say: fuck me, cunt. And that is the end of all chances for any discussion. Because that harms. That is far over the border of Hate Speak. And it is also not a question of the “freedom of”. This Forum has Rules. This Rules are given. Be inside them or leave it. But not fulfilling the rules has consequences. And the consequences are definitely the problem of the person not fulfilling the rules.