Xojo lost me as a customer after 15 years, but it doesn’t bother me 
welp, that sucks
Dont forget they also HAVE to update iOS as well as the requirements there are changing as well
They have a LOT of apple required updates to get done in the next 9 or so months
Sadly I suspect their level of concern is “Myeh - now he’s a troll too”
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The problem with forcing the sdk change is that the app is not stable anymore. For example random hardcrashing (at quiting). Odd screen updates, …
It is a useless hack.
Xojo will provide an update. Maybe. Possibly. Randomly believed. If not they will be out of business with their native GUI spitting App machine. But nkobody knows what will come up. Today we know that only this hack will work to be at the right UI. And maybe tomorrow we will know that this is a really bad idea. Who knows?
Crashes at the end are not that big problem. Randomly crashing apps are a big problem. So I would think that it is needed that they (Xojo) will need to update for using this API without problems like this. If not: no native anymore.
One of the reasons why I am really happy not to rely on macOS and not developing on macOS. Okay beside the fact that a few applications are not really running on macOS but really good on Linux and Windows. That’s good enough for me to change to Linux which is not crashing and that’s it.
how many devs and compiler guys and gals are working on it? Let me guess one or two?
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Xojo has a TON of work to do to update macOS SDK’s and api calls & iOS before both are required in the respective app stores
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I’d assume you keep using your Pro license until
you need a newer one. And then you pay it up at a sale for probably 800$. Or you downgrade them to desktop license for 500 or at a sale for $399.
I expect most citizen developers to watch out for sales and special offers.
So maybe not a big problem for you.
xojo told a client they could get lite until aug 5th. maybe thats accurate?
this will be interesting to see what percentage of people just dont bother to update to a newer higher priced version one
Esp when you can use any version and just RUN the code as is
So unless you NEED to build just use it in “demo mode” forever
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FUNNY side note
INN views by logged in and anonymous readers have more than doubled since Xojo jacked prices up
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i think thats the new RaspiPi/Linux license, right? Or does it allow compile?
It can be renewed at old price until the 5th. No new license at the old rate.
well, thats gonna be dissipating for them
no
any version can open any kind of project and run its code
it cannot build an exe
nor can it save to text (version control friendly) format
I started on a ‘warez’ 2005 RB copy. That led me to buy 2007, 2013, 2019, 2024 (Pro level versions). Had the entry point not been so ‘cost effective’, I doubt I would have given it a second look.
Not having a low cost entry for the hobbyist will cut off new adoption. 500 is 400 more that I would consider for a lite product. Nobody is going to be getting excited over the free, but you can’t compile it line being pushed.
I’ve played with Xojo Web, glanced at iOS code, did a sample in Android, wrote a console app. But my only serious work was aimed at Windows. I always waited out a sale and just grabbed the Pro version in case I wanted those later (assuming they became stable). All along I could have just done Windows and saved. The price increase on the lite version is dumb.
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Oh I absolutely agree
I think this is a dumb move to try & upsell LITE users to the higher priced versions
But I also believe a significant portion will say screw that and just opt to use Xojo in the way I describe where they just save projects as binary & then use them in the IDE rather than compile a distributable executable
I have a decent hunch thats what they’ll see thats based on having worked there
And they’ll see the revenue hit on their bottom line regardless of having jacked the prices on other editions
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This is why you have to test your application. I’ve only done a little testing so far and it seems to be stable. If you’re using any plugins or declares you need to make sure that you’re using ones that are compatible with macOS 26.
Things like this are so much easier with Apple’s own tools as it will tell you which API is deprecated and which API you should be using. Xojo could add a system to do this, but I wouldn’t expect them to do so ever as declares are considered a Pro thing.