Xojo Hmmmm 🤔

That’s why parts of the documentation are written these days in penguin.

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in germany we sell those stuff to ppl very far far away hoping never see them again :wink:

as linux user I’d say no… nobody wants an closed-source IDE and language, which is by the way not memory and thread safe

Sorry but I would not even sell it to people far away while the world became smaller since Alexander Graham Bell invented there is a big amount of inventions…zoom and co are making the world so small that even people from the other side of the world can be from one to the other moment in your living room…it would provide too much stresses for me to do that.

Is Xojo still cross-platform?

What a lovely place:

Soooooooo good it had to be locked to seal in that goodness.

or

Funny they had to preempt the Preemptive Threading thread.

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…or preemptive policing….

I fully agree with you all (maybe you are surprised, Hal!), but this kind of moderation frustrates me. To me, it is abusing power as a moderator. Just to let everybody know who the boss is. I like this forum much better; at least discussions are respected.

Xojo is still on my list for my bookkeeping application, but behaviour like Kern Tekinay, as MVP showed, is not helping my decision-making.

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Exactly.
I’m not easily upset, but this behavior is just irrespecutful.

Same here. In contrast to others, I even think moderation is necessary. But it should be fair and transparent. In many countries it is even required by law. Moderation will never be perfect but a “heads up” here and there that discussions are derailing doesn’t hurt IMHO.

But banning people is not moderation and simply closing topics at the whim of someone is also not moderation. This “I think everything has been discussed” just seems weird. I believe “disrespectful” hits the nail on the head indeed.

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100% agreed.
The problem is that just our agreement won’t move Kern out of the MVP group or make him change his mind.

Once you see how disingenuous Geoff Perlman and Dana Brown are you’ll see more and more.

Suppressing folks from speaking up, archiving bugs, pretending to be cross platform, not getting community feedback on renaming stuff/threading…

It’s a hot mess and they don’t want to hear about how their decisions resulted in a hot mess.

Instead, they dig deeper.

Geoff has been criticized, true. But not Dana, right? :man_shrugging:

Pot. Meet Kettle ?

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Philippe, why don’t you just stay in your own forum and invite Kem as a moderator?

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I don’t expect bans here but somehow I feel that this guy needs a cool down time again. It’ll come soon that he restarts attacking people even more directly

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I’m on a (non-tech) forum that’s pretty Wild West in moderation approach and even they use the ban hammer now and again. Profanity and ridicule are permitted but start being dishonest or gratuitously cruel and you’re out. I don’t think a public forum exists that doesn’t have a red line somewhere. Just because we don’t shut down a thread for gasp discussing multi threading, doesn’t mean we have to suffer actual asshats.

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Yeah and he can use his own support forum. Runs like hell, has one member…should give enough hints to think about his own behavior…what ever

Broadly applied IGNORE works about as well as banning, silencing, etc since whatever they post just garners NO responses