Xojo Hmmmm 🤔

If Xojo were in the avionics software business we would see a plane crash or two every day.

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Without threading: no chance for aviation controller. Sorry but that is impossible.

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This is more a thought experiment “What if Xojo were in this line of business ?” and what would that mean for their customer service, product development & other aspects that we’ve all lamented ?

I mean if they were in the “health food” business they could make just about any ridiculous claim they wanted as long as they didnt promise any health benefits - since at that point the FDA might get involved

Xojo Weight Loss Gummies anyone ?

Those kinds of products make all kinds of promises and I think most people here recognize them a hucksters / snake oil salesmen

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if they would be in that business they would have to fulfill the rules of the market and the technological standards. There is no backdoor to do without. And so: if they would be in that business it would be less complex to use Xojo while they would be in a much better state to be able to sell in that market.

I was googling to see if there were any class action law suits against Xojo and found this… And Geoff replied…

There ARE some factual inaccuracies in that
I think I’v’e seen it before

The web site wasnt done in Xojo so it wasnt a hack of a Xojo web app
It was a “script kiddie” as as far as I recall
https://web.archive.org/web/20170323220317/https://www.bkeeneybriefs.com/2013/04/real-software-website-hacked/

I dont believe, but cant prove, that no CC information was taken

Funny but so much of the rest of that post STILL applies 8 years later

honestly, this “complaint” was BS and Geoff answered it in a professional way… never the less the product is full of bugs and I would not recommend it…

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@TomasJ pointed at the deficiencies of the post. It is also 7 years old now - and talks about bugs remaining unfixed. Can we call it a company tradition?

However, Xojo is insignificant as a platform and its customer base so small that no judge can be bothered with something like a class action law suit.

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Correct, for this they are too small and nobody is interested to do something like that. More it is interesting that they fix their platform.

ChartGate now on Twitter:

https://twitter.com/oab/status/1644325011073769473

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So much for Cross-platform and Abstraction

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The Web one is Chart JS
The right one something they wrote internally

Should have just used an html veiwer & embedded ChartJS in that
They’d at least look similar

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Android makes some waves in TOF:
https://forum.xojo.com/t/what-happens-with-xojo-android-nothing-in-xojo-blog-sad/75377

The vocal minority speaks:
https://forum.xojo.com/t/what-happens-with-xojo-android-nothing-in-xojo-blog-sad/75377/5

https://forum.xojo.com/t/what-happens-with-xojo-android-nothing-in-xojo-blog-sad/75377/6

Comparing codenameone and Xojo I can say: Xojo missed the train completely. Their idea was falling down and then had to restart development again and again. We have nothing working as an Android solution. For me unacceptable. iOS is coming without too many features and Android too. Cn1 brings all of this features and that for free. So what I have to look for or to think about?

Xojo missed the train already with the implementation of iOS and they will not get it back. The chance for mobile solutions is gone

Picture.SystemImage implementation is wrong on iOS

TL;DR

Ever since Xojo moved iOS to API2, drawing pictures in a Canvas has been a nightmare . This comparison between Picture.SystemImage on Android and iOS and drawing the pictures in a MobileCanvas proves it.

Wait - the same application for iOS and Android targets require two different Xojo projects?
How is this x-platform development?
As a low coder I must say that Xojo missed that customer group.

My understanding is that

  1. Desktop requires its own project file (macOS, Windows, Linux)
  2. iOS requires its own project file
  3. Web requires is own project file
  4. Android requires its own project file

Xojo is NOT “cross platform”, it is barely “multi-platform”

using Swift I can code for macOS, iOS and tvOS all in ONE project file

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Xojo is not low code. Only solution I know for one project for iOS and Android is Codenameone as a full stack mobile solution

Yes

There’s always copy paste which is, I think, how they envision “code sharing” and they they made so many control events “the same”
:man_shrugging:

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What happened to “Mobile”?

maybe like so many documentation objects it is incomplete ?

:man_shrugging: