XDC 2022 Cancelled šŸ˜±

But please! Stop it!

We all know we had been faced by an extremely dangerous threat, and luckily clever scientists found a new type of treatment, one that had only been used experimentally on terminal cancer cases before. There was of course not the time for long time studies, but they are going on and every patient who has taken the vaccine is checked up at least monthly the next 2 years to verify the safety and efficiency of the treatments. Routine procedure for a new treatment; we never want to face something like Contergan again. We created and signed the Nuremberg Codex to make sure there will never be a misuse of experimental procedures anymore. Every even so faint side effect is registered and vaccines are updated regularly. You know it is hard to prove their efficiency figures from the numbers but we know them for sure from the first studies with just a few thousands of participants.

If your cited studies would indicate some potential danger, this would mean we would have to consider the enormous rise in dead pilots, the number of athletes who collapsed during games ā€“ sometimes even minors with a heart attack, but you know! Sports! ā€“ and the rising number of aborts to be connected to something else than climate change, and this would be very unscientific.

I mean, governments all over the world told us the vaccines are safe, and now they tell us we just have to take them a few times more to be safer. Otherwise governments would be liars, and that has never happened in history and never on a global scale. There had never been one single case in history where a government claiming to fight for humanistic ideals has proven to be just an utter liar and their care for money and power has never been bigger than their care for their citizens.

I go and watch V for Vendetta again.

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Societies discriminate against people in all kinds of ways already

Poor and dont have bus fare ?
No drivers license ?
Got a passport ?
Here if you want your kids to go to public school they must have long list of vaccinations

There are myriad ways that weā€™ve just become oblivious to because they seem normal

This is just one more

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Have we circled back around to Naziā€™s already ?

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Have we circled back around to Naziā€™s already ?

Pretty sure this doesnā€™t refer to Butlinā€™s
(UK reference Iā€™m afraidā€¦ Butlin's - Wikipedia)

Examples of stupidity? YES, definitely. Someone call the fruitcakes, and they came to prove it they indeed are.

Half your sources are about sequels of COVID, not about vaccines. But, let me understand, we have a virus that can kill 10% of the population if untreated and leave sequels on 50% of the population like memory affectation, lose of pulmonary capacity and all of that in your infoā€¦

The few that are related to the vaccine are ā€œreportsā€ of ONE or a few persons having X problem in the time after the vaccine but not proven to ve caused by. Causality vs Casuality

But yes, it is true that the vaccine can cause serious problems in 0.00000000001% of the populationā€¦

Now, is is really stupid to trow info without even know what is about.

But telling people to not take the vaccine for the 0.00000000001% chance of having a side effect because ā€œits betterā€ to have that 0.5% of being killed or having one of thos covid irreversible sequels, that is beyond stupidity.

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The vaccine has gone through its trials, has received full FDA approval, and is considered safe. And yes, the US state governments do have the ability to require their citizens to be vaccinated. This was decided ages ago in Jacobson v Massachusetts and decided by the Supreme Count. I am not familiar with cases in other countries.

If Iā€™m not mistaken though, itā€™s not something the federal government can mandate, which leaves it up to individual states. Unfortunately, thanks to a large number of pro-Covid antivax nutbags, such a move would be considered political suicide for that stateā€™s governor.

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In addition to what you said - ANYONE - expecting that EVERYTHING in life will be ā€œsafeā€ really needs to just give their head a shake.

Waking up in the morning starts a day full of risks - slipping falling and cracking your head, getting hit by a car, asteroid, or lord knows what else. Driving to work is among the most dangerous things you can do.

Being alive is risky.
EVERY activity involves risks all day every day.
Some or so miniscule they can be ignored most of the time.
Some risks are acceptable.

That literally IS life

Expecting that these vaccines should be perfectly safe under all circumstances isnt realistic

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< AntivaxMode >
That is not true. It is a Lie by the goverment. It is cientifically proven that seatbelts cant prevent the crashing so it makes no sense to use them. And IF your car falls in a lake and IF the seatbet got stuck and IF you cant loosen the belt you can drown. So it is better never take that risk.
Mandatory use of seat belts is a way for the goberment to control us.
< / AntivaxMode >

Mandatory use of something can save millions of lives from the stupidity of those who dont understand the risks.

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That isnā€™t the point, nobody expects them to be perfectly safe. If somebody weighs up the risk of the virus vs the risk of the vaccines and decides they prefer to take their chances with the former then that is their decision, itā€™s their body and their choice.

In England, the Public Health (Control of Disease) Act 1984 specifically prevents Ministers from creating new rules which would make vaccines mandatory. This means that any mandatory vaccination scheme would require Parliament to pass a new law. Ministers canā€™t just change existing regulations or introduce them using ā€˜statutory instrumentsā€™. Iā€™d be very surprised and disappointed if Parliament voted to introduce a law that forces people to undergo a medical procedure against their will.

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Dunno about there or how the law is drafted
Here its not uncommon to have a law that includes a clause to the effect of ā€œThe Minister is empowered to make regulations from time to timeā€ - kind of a carte blanche statement that the minister can make whatever regulations are deemed necessary
So its plausible here that a minister could make such a regulation that has the effect of law

Its a frequent clause to not hamstring the government waiting to pass a law to say ā€œcars need to have daytime running lightsā€

Certainly open to abuse though

UK is funny in the thing that the current government can use their majority in parliament to change any law as they see fit.

That is different to e.g. Germany, where some base laws require a 2/3 majority to change them.

Something as controversial as mandatory vaccinations would likely cause a back bench rebellion though, particularly with a Conservative government. Freedom of choice is very much part of the Tory ethos.

How well does that work? Instinctively I feel that would create an inertia where not much ever happens.

So every single XOJO employee was scheduled to speak at XDC 2022ā€¦amazing.

Thatā€™s what I meant. The Xojo employees are not the problem. They try to do the best from it. It is the structure and a big amount of tasks for a small amount of people.

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The conference is not just a the conference, but also the company gathering.

Since Xojo employers live and work in many countries and for the US in different states, the conference is their chance to meet in person and they often spend a few extra days for meetings and team building events.

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Yes I can understand that, It is the normal reaction when a team is in wide range on the continent.

Funny how thatā€™s not entirely true in real life however.

For decades itā€™s been mandatory for doctors in the UK to be vaccinated for hepatitis B and to prove immunity (and where immunity has waned to be mandated to have a booster vaccine).

No one has batted an eyelid at this - ever. No patient has every complained that their doctor has had to be vaccinated to protect them from the risk of infecting them with hepatitis B. OK - they canā€™t force you to have the vaccine - but you will not be allowed to take up employment without this.

The double standards in of the human mind beggar beliefā€¦

Thatā€™s not a matter of law but of workplace policy:
Full Fact