Web Framework 2.0 Discussion

https://forum.xojo.com/59163-web-2-0-questions

Greg said it in the above thread.

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I think you are reading too much into it. That seems more like tongue-in-cheek to me, aka the last version we fixed bugs in for API 1 …

Quite possibly but I do love a good conspiracy :slight_smile:

I hate them.

I am constantly being send whackpot theories by friends and family about some miracle cancer remedy or now COVID-19 theories ā€œproving it’s not realā€. Has been going on for years, and they never ever learn. The last one was a broadcast that had three massive errors within the first 30 seconds so I didn’t even bother listening to the rest but send out a message detailing the errors and concluded with a ā€œSTOP BEING FUCKING IDIOTS!ā€. :scream:

Haven’t gotten another one since :+1::+1::+1:

Should have done that years ago.

Ah I see
Yeah thats the LTS version for Web 1.0 because that will be that last version with Web 1.0 :slight_smile:But thats not exactly LTS - its abandoned after that

After Web 2.0 ships there are no more fixes for Web 1.0 so I’m not sure if that counts as LTS :slight_smile:

LTS usually implies some kind of ongoing fixing and support
That wont be happening for 2019r3.1
2019r3.1 will basically be ā€œdiscontinuedā€ once the new version ships

It was a joke, I was being flippant…

As everyone knows we Germans have no sense of humour … :lying_face:

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You’d have to read Gregs latestresponse but there isnt any LTS like you might be used to with Ubuntu etc

2019r3.1 will be the last build of Xojo which has any support for the old web framework whatsoever and we will not be fixing and more of the bugs reported against it. If you want or need to use the old web framework, that’s the one to use.

Its LTS in the sense that it wont change - because they wont back patch it or fix any bug reported

Greg did come across as annoyed with you!

-Karen

I wonder why … :roll_eyes:

No shit

But to be honest he stuck his foot in it when he said

@Lars Lehmann How about providing a LTS version of Web 1?

@Greg O’LoneThat’s 2019r3.1.

There IS no LTS version in the sense that most people mean LTS
There IS a last version it was in, which is whats going to happen to Web 1.0 from everyting I’ve seen so far and from Greg’s own presentation. When Web 2.0 ships there will be no more Web 1.0

That isnt LTS
Its dead, abandoned, forgotten etc

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You might wind up getting exiled like Markus …

I’m not surprised he was annoyed - only that he showed it publicly in the forum… after all you are now a customer.

-Karen

You might wind up getting exiled like Markus …
Dunno what for ?
Asking a legitimate q based on something their engineer said ?
Geezus I hope not
That would be plainly vindictive
Would it surprise me ? Somehow I have to say no

I’m not surprised he was annoyed - only that he showed it publicly in the forum… after all you are now a customer.
But not just your ā€œaverage customerā€ so … still
Off the forums Geoff has emailed me and reminds ME to ā€œkeep it professionalā€ ?
HA !!!

Maybe greg needs a break from being the lone public face of Xojo on the forums ?

That’s my take on it

Oh and I’m not being appologetic. I understand that the tone of his response to you was uncalled for.

Yeah I get that.
Greg probably does need a break from trying to ā€œdefendā€ decisions that he didn’t make.
I know exactly how that feels.

Should he help people out with issues - you bet

But explain the decisions Xojo has made, the reasons, etc ? no
That should be Geoff doing that
A lot of the discussion in that Web 2.0 thread should be Geoff answering esp where its not technology related but ā€œwhy did xojo ā€¦ā€ or ā€œwhen will xojo ā€¦ā€ kinds of questions
As in a ā€œthe buck stops hereā€ or ā€œI made this decisionā€ whether he did or not and take what ever heat/pressure off the engineers

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Yes, but since when do leaders lead … :roll_eyes:

[The World would be a MUCH better place if leaders would still have a front row seat in any conflict]

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:man_shrugging:

It would be nice if we occasionally saw posts from Travis and William. They’re nice guys - I always wondered why we never really see posts from them.

I’m curious @HalGumbert, I thought it didn’t look too bad. What specifically were you hoping for in the first release?