Xojo Hmmmm šŸ¤”

Neither one is a strategy for long term sustainability or growth

but Xojo has a plan for succession should Geoff step off a curb in front of a truck

sadly I dont know that should the succession plan ever go into effect that it would radically change the product in any meaningful way

I think that day passed long ago for Xojo and remains the only reason it wasnt sold off during the tech boom to Adobe, MS, etc etc
But then I also dont know if they got any offers

Even if it would be sold off to MS or Adobe or what ever: it would be cute down until now from that companies. And at the other side: I guess there is no after Perlman strategy. Who should do that? I can’t see anybody spending a million to get that business. So hard and so sad it sounds. The world will turn around even after. There best thing he could do then: set it open Source that the people behind the code are not loosing their projects codes and not loosing their ability of compiling while the Software is not around anymore not even on Github.

Oh I dont think there’s any prospect it would be sold to any of those companies NOW
Maybe 20 years ago in the DotCom boom when silly valuations were being applied to everything

But that didnt happen

I honestly dont know if such a plan was ever discussed
Maybe it was
But I dont think the person(s) I think are to take over if Geoff passed will make any big changes
That IS a big assumption on my part about who I think is to take over

The problem will be that he wants a high price for this project. If nobody buys it and time passes by it is dead by self and that’s it, The problem is that then the people standing with their Code and their projects in the dark and can throw all of it away. That is one of the unnice differences. Look at MS what they do with Studio Mac. This shows how things can end up for Developers. I guesss that should be interesting enough for the developers to look out what they use and do.

Why I had to think about Xojo Inc when reading this article? Just replace some buzzwords with ā€œlow codeā€ etc. and you can use this article as blueprint describing Xojo :slight_smile:

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That’s a god one!

And the recent bugs reported in issues make up for a good horror show. :skull_and_crossbones: :japanese_goblin: :japanese_ogre:

like this ?

https://tracker.xojo.com/xojoinc/xojo/-/issues/73893
https://tracker.xojo.com/xojoinc/xojo/-/issues/73892

a clear indication there are NO unit tests in place
this would never have passed if there were

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Exactly. No unit tests and overworked staff.

wanna laugh a bit more?

"I’ve been using Android for a few days now and wow… It’s awesome!!! - Obleo B.

ā€œLove it! My business couldn’t survive without the applications I’ve developed using REALbasic and now Xojo.ā€ - David V.

quote taken from their latest september 2023 marketing bullshit newsletter…

P.S. By the way, this is how crap newsletters look like in professional enviroments… can’t understand how some hipsters spending hours of formating and designing their HTML and CSS…

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OMG and making it false…

Ivan’s shooting for a ban or something ?

It is ugly, ugly, ugly:
https://forum.xojo.com/t/debugger-doesnt-display-small-doubles/77167

a non trustworthy debugger… what possibly could go wrong

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you haven’t tried their android offering have you
its … amazing

in how badly it works

break points never stop
I’ve resorted to printf debugging

A few things like:
https://forum.xojo.com/t/until-now-i-liked-xojo-i-hope-to-like-it-again/77322

The quiet masses are starting to speak up more

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Oh sweet! Another FileMaker customer of ours wants to get away from FileMaker due to the pricing…

So another PHP Web App based on Xanadu for them.

Ironically, it could have been a Xojo Web App if not for the Xojo fiasco.

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Advocates are/were one of the reasons Xojo grew
Now many of them are advocates - for using something else

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Was having this exact conversation with another former Xojo developer this morning. Despite the decades of experience in Xojo we both are advocating for practically anything else. That is money Xojo left on the table they’ll never get back.

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