What is Xojo smoking?

Someone just pointed me to this post on X. Xojo is basing Microsoft for deprecating things that forces Microsoft’s customers to re do a ton of work.

That’s like what we’ve been complaining about for the last 4 years!

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Old populist recipe: accuse others of the crimes you committed yourself.

The lack of decency is shocking.

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That is some true done deafness there

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Yeah, I called them out when they first published this ‘thing’ on Twitter…

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The discontinuation of Visual Studio for MacOS is annoying but I got tired of them thrashing around and went to JetBrains Ryder a couple of years ago. I think the decision has a certain logic given the challenge of keeping feature parity between Windows and MacOS and the existence (and popularity) of VS Code which DOES have feature parity. In the end, I think that dropping Visual Studio for MacOS is a tacit admission that JetBrains already owns that platform for .NET development anyway. For my personal work I will probably use Ryder on both Windows and MacOS going forward, particularly given my budding interest in Avalon and that Ryder is their preferred toolchain. My client uses Visual Studio 2022 on Windows so that is what I have to use for my paying work at present.

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Exactly
For .Net there were 4 decent choices
Now there are 3
For Xojo there’s uh …

Oh, and the discontinuation of VS has made me redo exactly 0 work
Someone there thinks the IDE & the language & framework are the same
They’re not

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Yes, my experience was that Ryder would open an existing Visual Studio solution without difficulty or confusion. Literally the only problem is the fairly minor differences in the UI and some minor differences in terminology and configuration.

I also am super impressed with C Lion, their C/C++ IDE. PyCharm not so much … but man the price is right for all those IDEs for, what was it, $300/year?

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In their defense they would just say that API 1 is still supported and no one has to rewrite their Apps now…

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You’re very likely right
But then their definition of supported isn’t what I expect many would use
Does it get bug fixes ? No
Can I start a new project in the new IDE using it ? No
Can I use the old IDE on the latest versions of macOS to work on my Web 1 project ? maybe - with some hackery I believe

So how is it “supported” ?

Its a highly suspect claim at best

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Thoughts and prayers. :roll_eyes:

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This could be a sincere post, ¿ignorance? maybe the CEO cant understand that in most tools the framework is not tied to the IDE, current work can be done in another IDE without “re doing” it.

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→ nil

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Support means fixing bugs and bring it on new OS versions?

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Customer_support

Find any customer care skills that Xojo lacks? :wink:

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Find any they HAVE?

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Really good at making misleading statements!

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