But that wasn’t you though, right? So did anyone who was “suspended” actually lose access before that caveat was introduced? Who was the first to be “suspended”, was it you or Dave, its all a blur now. If it was Dave, then that doesn’t matter because as far as I know he got a refund.
Yeah I didn’t want to correct him because you know someone would probably get their shirt up and moan that they understood what he meant so why didn’t I. I just used the terminology he used so not to confuse matters.
I’m not picking a fight, I’m just finding out facts. As far as I’m concerned, Markus was the first one to take a pop at me, then you started to get all analytical with dates and stuff, saying that things had changed after you had a licence, eventually I found out that you didn’t have a licence, it belonged to someone and you were just using it? Then you claimed that you were banned out of the blue for no apparent reason which I found out wasn’t the case. Please do let me know if I get any of this wrong. There’s probably more stuff that I’ve missed but I’ve got other stuff to do so I’ll check back later to see how things are going in here.
Correct I was NOT the person who this affected in that way
Not quite 100% true and not quite 100% false
I use a license assigned to me by a client
The difference is they paid for the license and assigned it to me
The end result is that I am the designated user of that license
I do NOT have a license I paid for
That would be the correct way to say it - and accurate
My suspension affects ME and my ability to access the betas using my login ID
But not my client
Really ? love to know what the reason was since it was never cited to me beyond “negative influence in the community” in the email telling me I was suspended
No post cited despite me asking to please let me know why I had been suspended
To this day I could not tell you what it was that I said or did on THEIR forums that resulted in that ban
However, I CAN say that I received emails from Geoff about other matters citing my communications with other people NOT on Xojo forums
I cant prove that they are / were the reason I was banned
But I can tell you precisely which forum guideline they added regarding the subject Geoff mentioned in the emails
A bunch but when you try to distill it down to 10 or so sentences thats going to happen
No, when I was suspended, I was suspended… no refund, no nothing.
I never had used any of the “other services” including feedback, so I didn’t really care
That was in late 2019 if I rrecall… so nearly 3 years, and I moved on with tools that are (my opinion) 1000x better than Xojo… not to mention FREE
USA is the least civilized country of the western world
i didn’t read all the thread, i was not using xojo in 2019, i recall you as a valuable member of xojo, so i don’t understand, you were permantly ban for whining in tof ?
anyway you surely don’t deserve to be permantly banned
french people like to protest, we have almost a protest in paris everyday. in germany all workers are uniionized and it’s going fine, one of the greatest economy of the world.
so we should make a petition to get you unban from TOF
Apple and Microsoft have to abide by the law (as well by international laws if they operate in those markets) as any company has to. Admittedly even large cooperations have to be reminded of this fact often enough.
Little smacks fly under the radars for far too long, but that doesn’t make their behaviors legal nor is it good ethical business practice. The same laws apply to everyone, but as there is no plaintiff, there is no judge.
just to remind you that apple, microsoft, google, amazon ALL have problems with the law in europe, have complaint from european comission for many years. isn’t google has been fined some months for 1billion $v for i don’t remember what ?
as well by international laws if they operate in those markets
there is no such things, only OMC laws, pretty weak.
otherwise it is just a warzone - always has been -