Moving away from Xojo

The GTK was a problem for MacOS several times and stopped working. The GTK team was always fixing it but not always in time what means: not a good Idea at all for releasing macos software.

@chikega, I would be very interested indeed in having the PascalABC.Net help files that you’ve translated from Russian. Sorry about the bump, I joined today.
Regards,
burque505

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Here ya’ go! PascalABC Docs translated to English.

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Awesome indeed!!! Thank you!!!
How on earth did you manage to translate 498 pages from Russian? Very impressive.
I still know some Russian from high school, but that would have taken me months.
It’s really going to be a huge, huge help to me.
Best regards,
burque505

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I wish I could take credit. :nerd_face:The only Russian I know is when I used to date a Russian girl back in the day. :smile: The translation of the help files involved several steps: a chm-to-docx converter which was then translated by Deepl translator, then to MS Word to export the docx to PDF format. It appears to be a fairly good translation from what I can tell and the hyperlinks have been preserved from the original help files. The translation was done in 2021 before the popularity of genAI- so I may need to re-translate it again. If you’re keen on learning PascalABC.Net, I would join their group on Telegram - the creators and developers of PascalABC.Net are so approachable and have helped me a lot. I have a subscription to Telegram premium which adds auto-translation of the messages. :rocket::rocket::rocket:

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Thanks, I did notice some signs of machine translation. (e.g. “Bestiary parameters (var a; const b).”, which I got a kick out of.) “Procedure” is variously translated to subroutine and subprogram. Minor stuff, though! Thanks for the tip about the PascalABC.Net Telegram group! Wonder if they have a Discord server …

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The question is: has this pascal solution a real future? Nobody knows. That would make me nervous from the beginning. If the maintenance will be stopped one day it’s future ends up.

As it is opensource there is very little reason to be skeptic about it.

If the lead developer leaves the product midway there will always be someone who will take it up.

I heard this song too often in my life to believe it.

I don’t think they have a Discord server that I’m aware of. But yes some of the translations are pretty damn funny! :smile: I’ve re-translated the help files and so far it’s close to 900 pages long! The translation looks better than 3 years ago too, but I’ve only glanced over it.

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PascalABC.Net is fortunately backed by the Southern Federal University and the language is constantly being updated by the original creator, Stanislav Mikhalkovich, his faculty and graduate students which will be passed on to the next generation of faculty and graduate students. Pabcnet is a cool variant of Pascal with influence not only from Object Pascal but from other languages like C#, Python, Kotlin, and Haskell… It’s a very progressive language with a lot of modern constructs and some clever syntactic sugars.

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Love to see that when you get a chance. The 900 pages, that is :grinning:

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Ok here ya’ go! Pabcnet_docs.pdf
It’s actually 898 pages long.

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Many, many thanks!

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Someone created a visual basic-like programming language just for fun. It’s not for professional programmers, and can run on Mac, windows, Linux, iOS, and Android.

It is limited, but still interesting.

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the article is somewhat incorrect. Microsoft already intrdoced many elements in its pre Windows Visual BASIC, esp. the TUI Dialog Editor was leading-stunning-edge back in those times.

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my problem with pascalABC…
it’s full of Russians!

It is a russian group standing behind and a russian development. What are you expecting? Languages like that nobody needs. Only here on INN.

So what, if it’s russian origin? There are many talented russian developers and inviduals. I don’t care about politics and it’s kind of stupid to judge people based on nationality.

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Risk has nothing to do with politics. It has to do with risks. And to implement backdoors that would be a nice way so I would not use it in this situation. I was even kicking out Jetbrains until they left russia with all their company.