Because of the scope of these changes — along with other big, exciting features in the works — the testing cycle for 2025r3 will be longer than usual. As a result, 2025r3 will likely be our last major release of the year, followed by any needed point releases.
Not surprised since they need to make sure everything uses the latest SDK as app submissions with the older ones will get rejected soon enough
Ehm… for what exactly Users pay 1K bucks per year? For what exactly there was a Public Beta, Apple granted Developers to adopt their software?
I would cut the bill 25% because of that. Luckily I do not have any contracts with them anymore.
Ah I see the 4D chess move.. they not only increased the prices by 25% they aswell work 25% less… Geoff is a real master genius.
.. the testing cycle for 2025r3 will be longer than usual.
Wait.. what? “testing cycle” - gimme second…. need to sit down…. he said testing cycle?
2025r3 will likely be our last major release of the year..
So it’s even not clear, if R3 will be ever released? Or will they ship R3 anyway with the knowledge, it won’t work on current MacOS?
It’s shaping up to be one of the biggest Xojo releases in recent years…
I do not know, but my reaction on this statement: I am getting more terrified….
Real Live Comedy
can I used Xojo 2021r3.1 with Mac OS 26???
Just try.
Sometimes we get it all done in a single release and sometimes it takes a few to get to 100%. Regardless, our goal is to make the transition for you a smooth one.
Sure, count on it 
And Geoff still hasn’t logged into to the forums since Aug 14.
From the Xojo blog post…
Geoff Perlman is the Founder and CEO of Xojo. When he’s not leading the Xojo team he can be found playing drums in Austin, Texas and spending time with his family.
Not spending that time in the forums, that’s for sure.
Did he got banned?
Naa, he don’t want to see that mess.
Maybe
I will say I have had no end of issues using 2021r3.1 on macOS 15.6
Its supposed to work but its so glitchy I just moved to 2024r2
what issues do you have with that combination??
I am using the exact configuration without any problem..
and I just update to Mac OS 15.7 last night
Debugger flakiness
Esp remote
And the IDE just behaves very badly - copy paste issues
Weird editing issues when you see the code on screen its OK
Compile
Piles of errors
Go look at the code and its all messed up and you have to edit it again
Like the code editor on screen is OK but what it actually holds in the code for the item are out of sync
EDIT : oh and iOS and Android are blech !
not that Android is “great” - its still at best late alpha not beta
now that you mention.. I do notice when I do debugger and putting a watch on a line and it does not stop when it is suppose to stop… maybe I don’t use it that much.. so hardly remember it..
Fewer users. take more time to test
The transition will be smooth for Xojo customers. 
Where’s Geoff?
Just resurfaced
in a way makes me wonder if this is an app thats had the SDK number hacked
that might be wildly unreliable