Liquid Glass

To be fair, I should be specific.

  • If one does not care for accessibility, the UI without the goopy animations is just fine. It’s solid, there’s features that improve some aspects of usability as long as you do not have a visual or processing disability of any kind. (that’s only a matter of time for us lol)

  • The animations themselves are gross, disgusting, icky, and slimy. If glass is a liquid here, make it more like water to hopefully not disgust everyone? Instead of the viscosity of … Snot? Why do the buttons have jiggle physics for fucks sake. Shouldn’t that be the realm of some video games and mods?

  • Apple AI news and updates really suffers from the lack of context that:

    • this is the company that recorded it’s customers private conversations, knowing ahead of time these were incredibly personal, private conversations, including private acts (of which they are offering a settlement for, go claim yours!).
    • Also the same company that took naked pictures of it’s employees.
    • Stored explosives in an office building
    • Pumped toxic gas into a residential neighborhood
    • And a company who’s retaliation includes wiretapping, breaking and entering homes, among other things.

This new UI doesn’t look bad with certain apps, like Maps or Weather.

But I don’t know how many apps can utilize this style, otherwise with primarily white app interfaces, it just looks wrong.

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IMHO, it looks not bad. Some aspects seem clear (and good) to me.

btw. under iOS18 (iPad) and Xcode16/Swift 6 (I’m also very happy for the change in the version numbers…), if one recompiles an app, the tab-bar appears on top, no longer on the bottom - more annoying for me..

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They should have named it Aqua :wink:

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Aqua doesn’t deserve the insult. :stuck_out_tongue:

(But seriously, :100:. This could have been an excellent successor to Aqua and I don’t know if they have it in them anymore).

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How about releasing UI for grown ups next? Who needs excessive amount of fancy effects for daily work anyway? I would still be perfectly happy running desktop with features and look of SGI IRIX with 4Dwm.

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Yes, good old times. Also Sun’s spark Unix had good features. Enough for me. At the end.

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I color my Folder Icons since it it possible to do it (MacOS 7 ? 8 ?)
I ven add image(s) in it…

Example of my Tarzan folder.

I have a standard Ion ith a large red circle (means I do not have this/This folder is empty)…

and…

I relate to this; i use windowmaker.

However, I don’t think we have to be entirely utilitarian in our interfaces. A little levity in our UI’s, and some fun do greatly help usability. Newton OS UI, Platinum, webOS, WP7, MacOS X all had elements of this.

Unfortunately we’ve progressed from things like transition and status animations to over the top indulgence, trashing any usability for the sake of unstable, attention stealing distractions.

I just want to be able to theme my desktop the way I want

like I could with Classic MacOS (7,8,9) by installing WDEFS, LDEFS, etc

THAT would be so much nicer than being dictated to by Apple

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You mean like MacOS/OSX in it’s entirety or just the latest versions?

I always thought that (with the exception of the first few versions) OSX is the best OS ever. It’s a crossover of Unix and a great looking user interface that’s also intuitive and very stable. With these last few versions the quality control seems to be lacking a bit, but I still like it a lot (although Windows has made big steps too the last decade).

But all the animations are a bit heavy for Intel Mac’s I guess.

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Why the heck I should do something looking like mac on Linux? I am happy to have what I want to have. Only need to use mac is xcode for builds of software. Small hint: I have a mac which I am using for this remote. End of story for me.

This is the kind of desktop I want to go back to. LOL

TOS 2.06 in-depth user guide - Atari Wiki

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Internally it still identifies itself as Aqua, NSAppearanceNameAqua.

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Okay, thst’s a bit too old in my eyes. But it was brilliant in this times. And it worked. But today it can be a bit more colored instead of black and white. Good old Atari times.

I used to run Geneva on some of my Ataris and Mint + XaAES on my Atari Falcon 030 for a fairly modern desktop experience.

Alright… it’s time to talk about Motif UI of Geoworks Ensemble, running on a Schneider Euro-PC with 9.54 Mhz on 8088 XT in 720×348 pixels on an Amber-Hercules-Display :stuck_out_tongue:

https://blog.jakobs.systems/vid/20241210-geoworks-europc.mp4

This was and is my first self-bough PC from 1988 on which I started to develop (before this we just played on C64 and Amigas). I still keep it and from time to time I drift away in old memories and built it up in my desk. Recently I’ve found the picoMem Board, which is a neat piece of engineering for such classic pc’s:

Schneider Euro-PC with 9.54 Mhz on 8088 XT in 720×348 pixels

Faster than some current Windows machines of my acquaintance!

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You know, you could just run an Atari VM on your Mac :slight_smile:

BTW, I made MagiCMac possible first on 68K, then PPC Macs, by using the MMU to map the zero-page and interrupt & trap vectors between Mac OS and Atari TOS (well, MagiC!) to make this possible. Later, Andreas Kromke (author of MagiC!) then wrote a 68k emulator for Intel CPUs and made my VM code obsolete).

Regarding app icons: If you only care about the appearance of your icon in the Dock, and want the old look back where you could break out of the squircle, simply set the dock icon at launch to your custom icon (there’s a NSWorkspace … setDockTile something method for), and you’ll get your icon back after the initial launch. But your icon will still get the ugly wrapper when used elsewhere, e.g. when the appear in a Finder stack or when adding the app to the Finder’s toolbar.