Xojo likes kicking the can down the road, shedding customers along the way:
What is a “Milestone”?
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I’ve got a few of those as well that have been pushed to the next release for several in a [row]
Same kind of history
The could just attack this list of 1200+ items (all marked reproducible)
https://tracker.xojo.com/xojoinc/xojo/-/issues/?sort=created_date&state=opened&label_name[]=Reproducible&first_page_size=100
4 open for 1 closed…
Thanks. I’ve already been doing some testing with B4X, and while it’s cool it does SOME things in a REALLY weird way. I’ve built a simple POC and it seems to work, but i think it took me way too much time to accomplish what I did.
PB is my next stop.
Again, really appreciate all of the input and insight from everyone that’s responded. Very glad I dodged the money-bullet that Xojo probably would have turned into.
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Amen brother.
In the past, I thought, once they’ve finished this, they’ll take care of X. They never did, because they jump from one thing to the next. Bug bash was great, but not a single one of my nominated bugs was addressed.
Which leads me to believe either they really don’t care, or they’re lacking the skills to do some of the advanced stuff that is needed to solve these problems or add the features that customers are asking for.
Lets be honest. Xojo has boxed 'em selves in. The don’t or can’t take of skilled customers, so they’re constantly trying (and failing) to fill the void with new customers.
I logged into TOF the other day and it is shocking to see so many wrong answers being spread around. It appears that there’s no-one left who can or wants to take the time to help newbies, so they’re leading each other around the toilet bowl.
I’ve only been working on SwiftUI for a few weeks and yeah, I already found a 3 year old bug (thankfully with a solid workaround). I was hoping that Apple would be on top of bugs with their new shiny, but I think their CEO went to the same business school as Geoff.
Bugs, who gives a shit, shiny is what people want.
Ever since Craig took over “new and shiny” beats “its solid as hell”
Bertrand Cerlets Snow Leopard bug killing was the last version that they seemed to ever really take killing bugs super seriously
That was THE Entire announced “new thing” for snow leopard
While it shipped with more than that that was a KEY feature
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Amen. I’ve heard some newer versions being called the “Snow” version, High Sierra, Catalina, Monterey. But none have ever been a “Snow” version and under Craig’s leadership and Tim Cook’s guidance they never will. Apple shipping a “New” release every two months is a marketing driven business model.
Something blew me away with SwiftUI today.
ScrollView( [.horizontal, .vertical]) {
Some View
}
Is how you place your view in a proper scroll view, something that I’ve been asking Xojo for a long time, something I’ve fought with the CEO for, something that I’ve fought the Xojo framework to get, for a long time. Figuring out the new issues that occur after using a real ScrollView, hooking deep into the system to create a Scrollview that would be compatible with Xojo’s framework, only to have Apple break it within a matter of months.
Took me all of a few seconds with a truly modern, low code development tool. How insane is that?
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Javascript has some functions for scrolling too.
What’s amazing is learning how other tools a well flushed out, unlike Xojo.
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Xojo is pulling a Claris: remaining entirely silent, not answering to developers/customers on serious bug matters.
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Building interfaces in SwiftUI is straightforward. Code is clean and absolutely no pixel-pushing or event-catching involved.
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You gonna miss Xojo’s clever multi-platform approach.
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Hey, it appears you can solve it with ‘Low Code’ Xojo… 
#if TargetMobile then
AddHandler MyTimer.Run,AddressOf MyMethod
#else
AddHandler MyTimer.Action,AddressOf MyMethod
#endif
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