In your opinion 
In your opinion
You entitled to it no matter how wrong it is 
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to me this says āI could tell you stuff but I wont so I wont say anythingā
So you dont need to post to say nothing
Its why I felt this didnt add anything to the thread - but that is just MY opinion which Iām allowed to have and for it to not be the same as yours
Thereās no right or wrong or correct and incorrect here
If we were discussing the atomic weights of something or the masses of something - things that are provable and factual - fine
Weāre not
Its my opinion that ā¦
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Youāve read the topic of the title? 
Just saying ā¦
Only if you read selectively and leave out what he HAD to say.
Sorry Norman - you misquoted Emile and took out the important bit to make your case (are you going Republican on me? )
If you need to do that then you have no case.
There is a debate in Science that experiments that fail to show an effect should be published as they can be as important as ones that succeed to show something - because they reduce the probability that there is an effect, and they might save a LOT of time and money preventing others going down the same wrong path (something most programmers will be familiar with).
So if saying āI tried that and couldnāt make it workā is valuable information, then Emileās post was useful and on topic (despite his usual rambling approach), and the criticism is unfounded.
Unless you guys dismiss it all because you think Emile not making it work doesnāt mean anything, so you can just disregard that bit.
Just to be sure I follow, because Iāve not read the original reply. Is this quote this thread is about, concerning Emile? (taken from an earlier post in this thread)
If so, clearly not off-topic in my opinion.
But Emile is in this forum; he certainly knows better than us what he meantā¦
Like when youāre seeing ton of āI have this problem tooā in Appleās forum (or others). Makes very hard to follow what users did to try solving their problem (so that you can either also avoid some bad attempts, or get clues as to what is the problem/what you might try on your side).
When you get 138 pages on a discussion and 3/4 are just confirmations of guys having the same issue, you often donāt look the thread further, even if it could be helpful on the very next page/postā¦
Given the smileys and the next āBut seriouslyā bit, I think it was kind of a joke 
Based on how I often ātranslateā Emileās answers, I read it as āI have answers I expected to be true in the first place, but my experiments showed that theory isnāt equal to practiceā, which leads to ābe cautious about unexpected results you may getā, which, IMO, can be helpful.
My two centsā¦
Iāve been flagged, too.
Donāt waste your time whining and move on.
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Donāt worry, Norman getās the joke, in the same way as I get his ā¦ even without smiley
I get the drive to have āanswers with contentā, and that they would not have written what Emile wrote as they come from a VERY different place and therefore appreciate if others write what THEY might have written (saving them the hassle). But just because Emileās answer doesnāt add anything to THEIR knowledge (THEY managed to make a living with Xojo) doesnāt mean that the OP will. So if someone asks if Xojo is a good development tool for him and can he earn money with it, then any answer that is on topic counts.
If an item has 1 positive review but 300 negative ones would you buy it? Obviously not.
Then just imagine 1 person saying āIt worked brilliant for MEā and 300 saying āCouldnāt do it with this toolā, then you would clearly say āthat was very useful for my decision whether I should use this toolā. So why is Emileās answer considered off-topic or irrelevant? Beats me.
As Iāve demonstrated I can argue my case, whereas everything else I read misquoted Emile to make their case or didnāt even try and put it down as ājustā an opinion. And that is simply incorrect and unfair to Emile - and I canāt stand unfairness.
Iām not sure if that is the German or the Scientist in me ā¦ potentially the worst of both Worlds combining ā¦ 
You make enough noise they might actually raise the āflag levelā from one to three before hiding a post.
Because the current situation is ridiculous.
If that was what he said you would be correct. And Joseph would be correct that it would be mocking.
But what he said was
āI could give theorical answers to all of these, but since I failed for each of these, it is better to stop here and let more knowledgeable people to give you answersā¦ā
That is a personal, honest and pertinent answer.
Not cool misquoting that and portraying Emile like something else.
That is also something I hate with some people. They tend to think their opinion is the only valid one and if you try to offer another point of view, they basically tell you you donāt understand anything.
Recently in the official forum, there was a discussion about GitHub (or svn, along those lines); one answer said āsvn is mandatory in programmingā. I answered this wasnāt true, because some donāt use it (never said itās not a good thing, but still not āmandatoryā).
The discussion then went in a āyou never tried so you donāt knowā from the same user, which is just ābad faithā. I gave up answering, as the user clearly wonāt accept another point of view.
I often see this behaviour in forums, like Appleās. You end up in a āyou have no proof of what you sayā discussion and finding scientific reasoning would be too much time consuming and probably not worth. Then you abort but stay angry against that behaviourā¦
And Iāve never saw you saying something against Xojo; only suggestions on how you perceive things.
The ship is sinking.
Well, I had a meeting with Geoff recently and we talked about a few concerns I have.
I expect that he got some of the points I made and now I wait for their r2 or r3 release to implement some of the suggestions I made.
For the forum moderation, I am happy if they kick out spammers quickly. And as I myself run a website chat, I know people can be very rude and offensive. There I block people myself a lot!
Iād bet the people flagging Christian are flagging his posts because they dislike the persistent promotion of MBS plugins
Thereās been that section of the user base forever going way way way back to the NUG days
I also dislike persistent promotions of things, in general; but I know itās my opinion and wonāt flag something just because I dislike it
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At least Christian is offering a solution instead of adding noise to the signal to noise ratio.
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with a little power comes great stupidity.
:@Markis:
Yes, medical problems (vision).
The real answer is not Xojo remated. More about the Auto-learning / finding work later. My last 25 years prpves that to me.
And, an answer to open the ,discussion. Without a first answer, sometimes the question never get any.
Hard to read and write with disabked vision and a magnifying glass in ahond (1/10 in the active eye).
Be back on the end of the week.
Cheers.