ICYMI, 4D had a second product that was entirely web-based, including the IDE, called Qodly Cloud. After introducing it, they merged some of the functionality into their main product, 4D Server (I say “some”, because the thing that made QC different was that it lived in the cloud, only). Well, QC is dead
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Wow !
Only DAYS of notice to outsiders ?
A few days. Extremely professional servicer. We know behaviors like this. That they will also do when changing major partts of their software so you are standing in front of a chaos directly before you wanted to launche a customers project. Relying on services like this isn’t only dangerous, it is a guarantee to become bancrupt one day. But the people are in love with the Ideas, with themself and with their Idea that they even have technical skills.
I see this in many technology approaches and for many people. They rely on their crap. Until the day the crap stops living. Prominent examples? Enough. PowerBasic, Visual Basic 6 and many more showing that tbhis behavior works only for one person: the one which says: we dicontinue a technology while it is cheaper for us, our customers? Yeah they can pay for our new products and rewrite what do we care. (Web 1, API1 on Xojo’s site).
That’s the fundamental reason why I use Java. WHILE it is DEFINITELY the most reliable and the most stable platform on the market. Compared to Python (changed between 1 and 2 forcing rewrites, changes between 2 and 3 forcing rewrites), C++ (forced rewrites every two years) and soo many others.
Ah, I forgot: C# is also a candidate like that. Good luck outside with tools like that.
my guess is:
- adoption was poor. I would bet that there were less than ten, and probably more like five customers that were even screwing around with QC, let alone paying for it. QC is a low/no code tool. it was a tough sell to people who have been building massive self-hosted, server-based enterprise solutions with 4D for thirty-plus years. the writing has been on the wall, for maybe six months, or more, that they were deemphasizing this offering, as they promoted the integrated version. in addition, they have not released any updates to the product in about that time. chatter on the discourse server has always been low. in fact, I would imagine that I contributed 30-40% of the posts. the product barely emerged from beta, and it wasn’t ready.
- they said that all paying customers were notified and that they were migrating them to 4D server (which shouldn’t be much work, since QC is basically a web framework for 4D. the syntax of the code is very similar. the data structures are very similar.
it’s still a bummer that they’re giving up on it. it was an interesting product that had potential, especially if they took the training wheels of off it.