Bug/FR reported 11 years ago, closed today without communication/solution?

Sure there are a handful of ones that are not

MOST, not all, are very old feature requests

All the ones in reverse closed order (newest to oldest)
https://tracker.xojo.com/xojoinc/xojo/-/issues/?sort=closed_at_desc&state=closed&first_page_size=100

All the bugs closed newest to oldest
https://tracker.xojo.com/xojoinc/xojo/-/issues/?sort=closed_at_desc&state=closed&not[label_name][]=Feature%20Request&first_page_size=100

Notice the second list doesnt include a lot of "archived"ones which seem to be the majority of whats been closed recently

More cases than professional customers? :face_with_tongue:

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personally I have 271 open & needs review reports

in total I have 557 open cases
this is only in my ā€œnewā€ account so thats only in the last 6 years since I left

I havent checked any other people but there are a handful that have a LOT of reports

EDIT: as of just a few second ago they have

6476 open cases https://tracker.xojo.com/xojoinc/xojo/-/issues/?sort=closed_at_desc&state=opened&first_page_size=100

2311 cases marked as BUGS

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Trust me: the most ones will not be fixed when our ban ends. We will end up a second one for this.

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.. well at least they close all open bugs and issues (sort of, somehow) before dying.
The last turns off the lights.

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This is what they get when they don’t prioritize bug fixes, don’t have enough manpower, don’t really plan features, don’t implement unit tests, and don’t do code reviews. These are not new problems. I should go back into the way back machine to see when I first blogged about REALbasic bugs piling up. I’d have to imagine it was 2006 or so.

I haven’t entered a bug report in 3 or 4 years and I’ve had a dozen or so closed in the last couple of weeks. Sad, but predictable.

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In their situation: what else they should do? They can’t fix this bugs at all. So archiving or deleting. No other chances. And many of the bugs are really annying even today. That is what I can’t understand. Renaming the framework instead fixing it’s bugs. But that is their policy. I guess: made for another than pro users cause nobody can exist under this amount of bugs.

But this has to be changed from them by self. Nobody from outside can do anything. They have their Idea and they do it like they want it. It will run for the next years and one day it goes to the end. People relying on it will have a problem from that day on. At least if the license-Servers stopping to work. Cause then it is a bit of a problem to revoke licenses to another computer and so on. Even with the license file it can be a problem. SHOULD work but is not always.

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Well, this was the topic of another thread here many years ago: Open Source at least the compiler and continue selling the IDE, the hosting, support and consulting services. Moderate community-driven decisions.

But they missed this window of opportunity when they could catch their leaving Pro Users. Now it’s too late. At least for me.

P.S: I shouldn’t write ā€œtheyā€ I better should use ā€œheā€, our genius.

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TBH I would suggest they open source the IDE and sell the compiler

BUT, the compiler isnt completely stand alone
Hence why there is no command line compiler
The IDE & compiler are intertwined in a way that you need both pieces

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or as many of us have already decided, we need neither piece :slight_smile:

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Yepp. Cause the chance that they open source anything is ZERO.

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