# XDC Day One Thoughts **URL:** \ **Category:** Other\ **Created:** [26 April 2023 20:46 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/xdc-day-one-thoughts/3243 "2023-04-26T20:46:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![samRowlands](https://ifnotnil.com/user_avatar/ifnotnil.com/samrowlands/32/121_2.png) [@samRowlands](https://ifnotnil.com/u/samRowlands)\ **Post date:** [7 May 2023 23:46 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/xdc-day-one-thoughts/3243/41 "2023-05-07T23:46:48Z")
I saw some of the Xojo Keynote. Here at Xojo, we’re not afraid of change. Change is progress. Sounds very much like someone trying to convince themselves that they were right. We’ve all seen progress, for me, t’was QuickTime to AVFoundation. Xojo’s “2.0 All The Things” ain’t in the same galaxy close. It reminded me of Apple’s Butterfly Keyboard fiasco. Small number of customers, vocal minority… yadda yadda yadda. Some independent repair shops cited that it was close to 50% of those laptop that had keyboard failures and Apple didn’t fix the problem for 4 years. I recall reading they had to step away from the Butterfly design because by 2019, their laptop sales were down to a quarter of 2015. The more Geoff pretends everything is fine, the less things are going to improve. ---
**Author:** ![Torsten\_B](https://ifnotnil.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/ecae2f/32.png) [@Torsten\_B](https://ifnotnil.com/u/Torsten_B)\ **Post date:** [8 May 2023 01:05 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/xdc-day-one-thoughts/3243/42 "2023-05-08T01:05:25Z")
> [@samRowlands](#): > > It reminded me of Apple’s Butterfly Keyboard fiasco. Small number of customers, vocal minority… yadda yadda yadda. Some independent repair shops cited that it was close to 50% of those laptop that had keyboard failures and Apple didn’t fix the problem for 4 years. > I recall reading they had to step away from the Butterfly design because by 2019, their laptop sales were down to a quarter of 2015. Even without a mechanical failure these keyboards where crap. It was the end of the-design-over-function frenzy at Apple. ---
**Author:** ![Torsten\_B](https://ifnotnil.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/ecae2f/32.png) [@Torsten\_B](https://ifnotnil.com/u/Torsten_B)\ **Post date:** [8 May 2023 01:09 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/xdc-day-one-thoughts/3243/43 "2023-05-08T01:09:22Z")
> [@samRowlands](#): > > Here at Xojo, we’re not afraid of change. Change is progress. For Xojo this translates to ‘we don’t care about our existing customer base’ ---
**Author:** ![npalardy](https://ifnotnil.com/user_avatar/ifnotnil.com/npalardy/32/10_2.png) [@npalardy](https://ifnotnil.com/u/npalardy)\ **Post date:** [8 May 2023 02:24 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/xdc-day-one-thoughts/3243/44 "2023-05-08T02:24:42Z")
> [@samRowlands](#): > > Change is progress. All change is not progress - its just change Was “the change” on the Titanic progress ? > [@samRowlands](#): > > t’was QuickTime to AVFoundation Take some thing good - make it better > [@samRowlands](#): > > The more Geoff pretends everything is fine, the less things are going to improve. Sounds like a _Nero fiddled while Rome burned_ scenario Or maybe the ostrich with its head in the sand about to be punched on by a lion But hey - things are good ! > [@Torsten\_B](#): > > For Xojo this translates to ‘we don’t care about our existing customer base’ They might SAY they do But watch what they DO Not what they say Every time they make a change so new users wont get lost or confused or something along those lines they show us how little regard they have for experienced users ---
**Author:** ![TomasJ](https://ifnotnil.com/user_avatar/ifnotnil.com/tomasj/32/4998_2.png) [@TomasJ](https://ifnotnil.com/u/TomasJ)\ **Post date:** [8 May 2023 04:45 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/xdc-day-one-thoughts/3243/45 "2023-05-08T04:45:08Z")
Bottomline: Nothing new in Xojoland. ---
**Author:** ![thorstenstueker](https://ifnotnil.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/aca169/32.png) [@thorstenstueker](https://ifnotnil.com/u/thorstenstueker)\ **Post date:** [8 May 2023 05:38 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/xdc-day-one-thoughts/3243/46 "2023-05-08T05:38:57Z")
I would wonder if there would be some really new stuff. But soon android will be released. Okay not even as productive release but as early beta but still…since first coming soon announcement only 5 years 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Torsten\_B](https://ifnotnil.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/ecae2f/32.png) [@Torsten\_B](https://ifnotnil.com/u/Torsten_B)\ **Post date:** [8 May 2023 06:12 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/xdc-day-one-thoughts/3243/47 "2023-05-08T06:12:30Z")
> [@thorstenstueker](#): > > since first coming soon announcement only 5 years Don’t be sarcastic. On a geological timescale this is speed of light! ⚡ ⚡ ⚡ ---
**Author:** ![Jeannot](https://ifnotnil.com/user_avatar/ifnotnil.com/jeannot/32/3787_2.png) [@Jeannot](https://ifnotnil.com/u/Jeannot)\ **Post date:** [8 May 2023 07:15 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/xdc-day-one-thoughts/3243/48 "2023-05-08T07:15:10Z")
> [@Torsten\_B](#): > > On a geological timescale this is speed of light! And on a profit/loss scale it’s likely a complete disaster 🙂 . Sorry I’m sarcastic or realsitic? ---
**Author:** ![thorstenstueker](https://ifnotnil.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/aca169/32.png) [@thorstenstueker](https://ifnotnil.com/u/thorstenstueker)\ **Post date:** [8 May 2023 07:54 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/xdc-day-one-thoughts/3243/49 "2023-05-08T07:54:59Z")
There is a border between surrealistic and truths. I don’t know, one of the game is standing not on the reality truths site. ---
**Author:** ![npalardy](https://ifnotnil.com/user_avatar/ifnotnil.com/npalardy/32/10_2.png) [@npalardy](https://ifnotnil.com/u/npalardy)\ **Post date:** [8 May 2023 13:05 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/xdc-day-one-thoughts/3243/50 "2023-05-08T13:05:40Z")
This is known as the “Duke Nukem timescale” in software 🙂 EDIT : Xojo for Android development is .5 Duke Nukems old 😛 [Previous page](https://ifnotnil.com/t/xdc-day-one-thoughts/3243.md?page=2)