That seems right to me.
How many years was I supporter thinking things would change and get better. Instead, IMO, they didn’t change and got worse.
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That you weren’t their target user was telling
Finally said the quiet part out loud I guess
IIRC it was very early Fall before snow hit. A number of us drove up to Estes Park and saw the Elk migrating. But yes, the weather was about as perfect as you could get.
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You have my sympathies 
The fact that so many of the Xojo community feel this way is wholly reflective of the poor management of Xojo Inc and management and delivery of Xojo as a product.
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For what we do it’s a really nice tool. It’s a mature tool (still on API 1). We’re all experienced Xojo developers (several former Xojo staff engineers) so we know its foibles and pitfalls. And so far, haven’t found a product to migrate to AND found the impetus (yet) to spend several (many) years migrating to it. It’ll be brutal whenever that decision is made.
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They managed to take some of their biggest cheerleaders and turn them into detractors. That’s a special skill not taught in schools. 
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Geoff is holding xojo back. Since he’s the majority owner that’s his right, but Xojo would do much better if Geoff was removed.
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We have nice memories from past conferences.
The one in Nashville is a bit special as it is the first one after a long pause. I expect it will find attendees, but maybe not those writing here. I look forward to see a few of my Xojo friends although I hear that Bob may not come there.
I haven’t been promoted to full time detractor just yet. I’m mired between wary and worried.
I do pay attention to what you and others are doing. And if one of you makes a move I suspect folks like me would be inclined to follow, or at the very least do a deep dive into whatever tool you find.
Some have moved entirely to other dev tools
Some listed in Moving away from Xojo - #66 by YogiYang
But it really depends on need as to what people are moving to
If you’re doing web only some have mood to PHP
If you need write once execute anywhere - Java fits that bill for some
It REALLY varies
I really need to update that Thread (as the OP) as since starting it I have learnt a new language and it’s working well for me - I’ve started using Vala for desktop (and as a web server), refreshing my memory of HTML and JS for web front end, and continuing with B4i/B4A for mobile.
I will just be leaving a big blue grass festival in Winfield, KS. There’s no way I’ll make it to Nashville in a day. Coming off of ‘Winfield Time’ is brutal.
To turn a company around you not only have to replace the leadership but then remove the damage they’ve done, part of which is their influence on staff and what they come to believe.
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I’ve lived in wichita since ‘98 and never had the good fortune to attend. It’s always been a curiosity for me, but I’m not a big music buff.
No doubt it becomes ingrained
Hals right though
Even if Geoff said "Hey we’ll change " after having done that for so long it’s implausible to believe that the leader that got them to where they are today would or could be the agent of change to lead them out of it.
Like expecting the guide who got you lost deep in the woods to lead you out of them.
But, Geoff has to see that
Until, unless he does, things are likely to remain the same
Jobs at least had the foresight to realize he had, at the time, lead Apple as far as he knew how to and hired Scully to lead them further
Eventually once Jobs HAD learned how to run a much larger enterprise he was able to come back to apple & lead them a lot further
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Geoff’s decisions strike me as one of those situations where his reach exceeded his grasp. We all (according to the votes) wanted all these new targets too. But all of us (and I suspect Geoff too) imagined them being as robust and functional as the desktop targets. From my vantage point that hasn’t yet been realized and feels far off at best. And of course it also took the eyes off the desktop ball for far too long.
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Right, but no one thought about the consequences of chasing these targets. If it was phrased as such: “Create ability to create iOS and Android projects with neither one of them being as robust as desktop and furthermore desktop will become stagnant while we pursue these development of mobile take 10 years to complete,” not many would go for it.
I’m as guilty as the next person for throwing some points at iOS (not Android). Sounded good at the time. But given what I know now (and should have then if I’m being honest) I would have been more vocal against it. Not that my opinion would have changed squat.
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Eh, I’m not much of a bluegrass fan myself. The group I play with is more Old Time with a little Celtic thrown in for good measure. If you want to see/hear the group we play with most night go to YouTube and search for Winfield Carp Camp and you’ll find some good examples. Always fun to play under the big tent with 75 really good musicians. Half the time it’s loud enough I can’t even hear my own mandolin (which is good since I’m not that experienced). Lot of fun, jokes, laughter, and music.
Anyone can come play. We do have homework every year. Huge potential playlist. THE HOMEWORK. And if you ever make I recommend sitting in the middle. 
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I know mine didn’t - and I had pointed out forcefully that the feedback system is badly skewed towards new features as feature requests by their nature are cumulative (“we all want iOS”) while bug reports are solitary (“the bug affecting me is not the same bug that affects you”).
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