# What do you like about the Xojo 2020 r1.2 IDE? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Programming\ **Created:** [16 November 2020 15:00 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/what-do-you-like-about-the-xojo-2020-r1-2-ide/1332 "2020-11-16T15:00:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![eugenedakin](https://ifnotnil.com/user_avatar/ifnotnil.com/eugenedakin/32/3892_2.png) [@eugenedakin](https://ifnotnil.com/u/eugenedakin)\ **Post date:** [16 November 2020 15:00 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/what-do-you-like-about-the-xojo-2020-r1-2-ide/1332/1 "2020-11-16T15:00:51Z")
What do you like about the current Xojo 2020 r1.2 IDE? As almost all of us have created many types of IDE’s for clients, as a hobby, and fun, what would you like to see added? Here are a couple of screen grabs of the old and new IDE. ---
**Author:** ![eugenedakin](https://ifnotnil.com/user_avatar/ifnotnil.com/eugenedakin/32/3892_2.png) [@eugenedakin](https://ifnotnil.com/u/eugenedakin)\ **Post date:** [16 November 2020 15:01 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/what-do-you-like-about-the-xojo-2020-r1-2-ide/1332/2 "2020-11-16T15:01:34Z")
RB2007 R3 ![RB2007R3](https://ifnotnil.com/uploads/default/original/2X/8/800e7bab0fabe0d06b64cea2a22db8a372a1df66.png) Xojo 2020 R1.2 ![2020R1-2](https://ifnotnil.com/uploads/default/original/2X/4/4ab5b43bb0da97df4dc16f9cba98ea03354709ef.png) ---
**Author:** ![Meestor\_X](https://ifnotnil.com/user_avatar/ifnotnil.com/meestor_x/32/567_2.png) [@Meestor\_X](https://ifnotnil.com/u/Meestor_X)\ **Post date:** [16 November 2020 18:14 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/what-do-you-like-about-the-xojo-2020-r1-2-ide/1332/3 "2020-11-16T18:14:48Z")
2007R3 looks way better. Wish I could skin the current one to look like that. Looks so efficient and compact! ---
**Author:** ![JeffT](https://ifnotnil.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/e95f7d/32.png) [@JeffT](https://ifnotnil.com/u/JeffT)\ **Post date:** [16 November 2020 18:21 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/what-do-you-like-about-the-xojo-2020-r1-2-ide/1332/4 "2020-11-16T18:21:43Z")
2007 still feels more ‘productive’ to me. ---
**Author:** ![eugenedakin](https://ifnotnil.com/user_avatar/ifnotnil.com/eugenedakin/32/3892_2.png) [@eugenedakin](https://ifnotnil.com/u/eugenedakin)\ **Post date:** [16 November 2020 18:59 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/what-do-you-like-about-the-xojo-2020-r1-2-ide/1332/5 "2020-11-16T18:59:43Z")
> [@Meestor\_X](#): > > 2007R3 looks way better. Wish I could skin the current one to look like that. Looks so efficient and compact! Yep, I like the IDE much better. I could look at the right-side of the IDE for a complete list of the control options and pick-and-choose what I would like. 2007 r1.2 seemed more detailed and complete IMHO. ---
**Author:** ![eugenedakin](https://ifnotnil.com/user_avatar/ifnotnil.com/eugenedakin/32/3892_2.png) [@eugenedakin](https://ifnotnil.com/u/eugenedakin)\ **Post date:** [16 November 2020 19:01 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/what-do-you-like-about-the-xojo-2020-r1-2-ide/1332/6 "2020-11-16T19:01:05Z")
> [@JeffT](#): > > 2007 still feels more ‘productive’ to me I ran a few ‘Hello World’ programs and I can’t believe how fast 2007 r1.2 was. It was only 32-bit back then. ---
**Author:** ![JeffT](https://ifnotnil.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/e95f7d/32.png) [@JeffT](https://ifnotnil.com/u/JeffT)\ **Post date:** [16 November 2020 19:17 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/what-do-you-like-about-the-xojo-2020-r1-2-ide/1332/7 "2020-11-16T19:17:50Z")
Things have become slower every year. ---
**Author:** ![npalardy](https://ifnotnil.com/user_avatar/ifnotnil.com/npalardy/32/10_2.png) [@npalardy](https://ifnotnil.com/u/npalardy)\ **Post date:** [16 November 2020 20:01 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/what-do-you-like-about-the-xojo-2020-r1-2-ide/1332/8 "2020-11-16T20:01:15Z")
heh So far not one post about “Things I like about the current IDE” 😛 ---
**Author:** ![prodman](https://ifnotnil.com/user_avatar/ifnotnil.com/prodman/32/81_2.png) [@prodman](https://ifnotnil.com/u/prodman)\ **Post date:** [16 November 2020 20:14 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/what-do-you-like-about-the-xojo-2020-r1-2-ide/1332/9 "2020-11-16T20:14:56Z")
The only one I can think of is “It’s not on my computer”. ---
**Author:** ![DaveS](https://ifnotnil.com/user_avatar/ifnotnil.com/daves/32/79_2.png) [@DaveS](https://ifnotnil.com/u/DaveS)\ **Post date:** [16 November 2020 20:23 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/what-do-you-like-about-the-xojo-2020-r1-2-ide/1332/10 "2020-11-16T20:23:12Z")
well not to be an outlier… .but I hate the 2007 IDE … it looks like a fugitive from the 90’s ---
**Author:** ![eugenedakin](https://ifnotnil.com/user_avatar/ifnotnil.com/eugenedakin/32/3892_2.png) [@eugenedakin](https://ifnotnil.com/u/eugenedakin)\ **Post date:** [16 November 2020 20:50 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/what-do-you-like-about-the-xojo-2020-r1-2-ide/1332/11 "2020-11-16T20:50:23Z")
> [@prodman](#): > > The only one I can think of is “It’s not on my computer”. Lots of people tend to agree. What would you change to make it better? ---
**Author:** ![eugenedakin](https://ifnotnil.com/user_avatar/ifnotnil.com/eugenedakin/32/3892_2.png) [@eugenedakin](https://ifnotnil.com/u/eugenedakin)\ **Post date:** [16 November 2020 20:51 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/what-do-you-like-about-the-xojo-2020-r1-2-ide/1332/12 "2020-11-16T20:51:13Z")
> [@DaveS](#): > > well not to be an outlier… .but I hate the 2007 IDE … it looks like a fugitive from the 90’s It reminds me of Visual Basic 6. Do you like the newer version better? Or something else? ---
**Author:** ![MonkeybreadSoftware](https://ifnotnil.com/user_avatar/ifnotnil.com/monkeybreadsoftware/32/451_2.png) [@MonkeybreadSoftware](https://ifnotnil.com/u/MonkeybreadSoftware)\ **Post date:** [16 November 2020 20:53 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/what-do-you-like-about-the-xojo-2020-r1-2-ide/1332/13 "2020-11-16T20:53:02Z")
Performance. The Xojo IDE could be profiled and optimized in a few ways to make things faster. It should fly on a computer like a Raspberry Pi for beginners. And then my Mac should handle huge projects faster than it does now. ---
**Author:** ![DaveS](https://ifnotnil.com/user_avatar/ifnotnil.com/daves/32/79_2.png) [@DaveS](https://ifnotnil.com/u/DaveS)\ **Post date:** [16 November 2020 20:55 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/what-do-you-like-about-the-xojo-2020-r1-2-ide/1332/14 "2020-11-16T20:55:37Z")
the 2007 version reminds of of VB… not saying the current one is great… .but in my opinion far better than the older ones ---
**Author:** ![doj](https://ifnotnil.com/user_avatar/ifnotnil.com/doj/32/530_2.png) [@doj](https://ifnotnil.com/u/doj)\ **Post date:** [16 November 2020 21:03 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/what-do-you-like-about-the-xojo-2020-r1-2-ide/1332/15 "2020-11-16T21:03:33Z")
I always use floating pallets and that makes it look fine to me, but when side by side like this the 2007 one looks professional and the new one looks a bit toy town, I don’t mind the VB6ness of it at all. another question is which one has more bugs in it and how many of the 2007 bugs are still there? ---
**Author:** ![npalardy](https://ifnotnil.com/user_avatar/ifnotnil.com/npalardy/32/10_2.png) [@npalardy](https://ifnotnil.com/u/npalardy)\ **Post date:** [16 November 2020 21:21 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/what-do-you-like-about-the-xojo-2020-r1-2-ide/1332/16 "2020-11-16T21:21:34Z")
I’m not allowed to say 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![eugenedakin](https://ifnotnil.com/user_avatar/ifnotnil.com/eugenedakin/32/3892_2.png) [@eugenedakin](https://ifnotnil.com/u/eugenedakin)\ **Post date:** [16 November 2020 21:24 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/what-do-you-like-about-the-xojo-2020-r1-2-ide/1332/17 "2020-11-16T21:24:30Z")
> [@MonkeybreadSoftware](#): > > Performance. > The Xojo IDE could be profiled and optimized in a few ways to make things faster. > It should fly on a computer like a Raspberry Pi for beginners. > And then my Mac should handle huge projects faster than it does now. I completely agree that the performance is much faster 0n 2007. After running a few programs the IDE and programs were very fast, although only 32-bit. ---
**Author:** ![doj](https://ifnotnil.com/user_avatar/ifnotnil.com/doj/32/530_2.png) [@doj](https://ifnotnil.com/u/doj)\ **Post date:** [16 November 2020 21:33 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/what-do-you-like-about-the-xojo-2020-r1-2-ide/1332/18 "2020-11-16T21:33:54Z")
it much quicker counting up to 32 than it is to 64, obvs ---
**Author:** ![eugenedakin](https://ifnotnil.com/user_avatar/ifnotnil.com/eugenedakin/32/3892_2.png) [@eugenedakin](https://ifnotnil.com/u/eugenedakin)\ **Post date:** [16 November 2020 21:35 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/what-do-you-like-about-the-xojo-2020-r1-2-ide/1332/19 "2020-11-16T21:35:10Z")
> [@doj](#): > > I always use floating pallets and that makes it look fine to me, but when side by side like this the 2007 one looks professional and the new one looks a bit toy town, I don’t mind the VB6ness of it at all. I have heard that some (many?) like the floating pallets. My slight personal preference is to have all the controls on one window. Maybe its a legacy Windows preference of mine? > [@doj](#): > > another question is which one has more bugs in it and how many of the 2007 bugs are still there? I ran a few of the example programs, and there are bugs. The bugs seem like they are dated. An example is the Chess.rbp which has the following error: > [@](#): > > A file system error occurred (#5) for “DebugChess Demo.exe”. If the application already exists, please make sure that it is not currently running; otherwise please make sure that the destination directory is writable" When the rbp file was moved to my desktop then there was an error with a global object. I ran the bejeweled.rbp program and it works well. Pressing compile and running the program was almost instantaneous 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![doj](https://ifnotnil.com/user_avatar/ifnotnil.com/doj/32/530_2.png) [@doj](https://ifnotnil.com/u/doj)\ **Post date:** [16 November 2020 21:38 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/what-do-you-like-about-the-xojo-2020-r1-2-ide/1332/20 "2020-11-16T21:38:30Z")
> [@eugenedakin](#): > > I have heard that some (many?) like the floating pallets. My slight personal preference is to have all the controls on one window. Maybe its a legacy Windows preference of mine? interesting thought, perhaps, I started using like this as I had a tiny screen on my laptop (when I first used Xojo) and it got me more code writing space, I still do it now with 2x4k monitors, I like how the pallets hide when you focus on a different window so you get that space back when not directly using the IDE. [Next page](https://ifnotnil.com/t/what-do-you-like-about-the-xojo-2020-r1-2-ide/1332.md?page=2)