# The USA‘s slide into Fascism … **URL:** \ **Category:** Other\ **Created:** [28 May 2020 22:04 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/the-usa-s-slide-into-fascism/522 "2020-05-28T22:04:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![npalardy](https://ifnotnil.com/user_avatar/ifnotnil.com/npalardy/32/10_2.png) [@npalardy](https://ifnotnil.com/u/npalardy)\ **Post date:** [4 June 2020 04:03 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/the-usa-s-slide-into-fascism/522/62 "2020-06-04T04:03:31Z")
OK Thats funny as … ~~bleeped for sensitive viewers~~ ---
**Author:** ![MarkusWinter](https://ifnotnil.com/user_avatar/ifnotnil.com/markuswinter/32/32_2.png) [@MarkusWinter](https://ifnotnil.com/u/MarkusWinter)\ **Post date:** [4 June 2020 05:11 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/the-usa-s-slide-into-fascism/522/63 "2020-06-04T05:11:28Z")
Best comment: > “we’re satanists, but we don’t believe in satan” > EITHER START SACRIFICING HUMANS TO OPEN A HELL GATE, OR QUIT FRONTIN! 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![s7g2vp2](https://ifnotnil.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/e9c0ed/32.png) [@s7g2vp2](https://ifnotnil.com/u/s7g2vp2)\ **Post date:** [4 June 2020 07:45 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/the-usa-s-slide-into-fascism/522/64 "2020-06-04T07:45:44Z")
I think you spend too much time reading The Guardian. Just because people voted Tory at the last election doesn’t mean they necessarily voted for Brexit. ---
**Author:** ![MarkusWinter](https://ifnotnil.com/user_avatar/ifnotnil.com/markuswinter/32/32_2.png) [@MarkusWinter](https://ifnotnil.com/u/MarkusWinter)\ **Post date:** [4 June 2020 10:52 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/the-usa-s-slide-into-fascism/522/65 "2020-06-04T10:52:30Z")
Actually I read German, UK, US, and NZ newspapers from both sides of the political spectrum, plus politico (the London Playbook is excellent) and the Economist. I like the Guardian as it quite often says what I think, even though sometimes (but fairly rarely) an article is distinctly coloured by personal attitudes. > [@s7g2vp2](#): > > Just because people voted Tory at the last election doesn’t mean they necessarily voted for Brexit. Really? Pull the other one. Considering that the Tories campaigned on a Brexit platform they would have to have been blind and deaf to not know they voted for Brexit … well, or incredibly stu… naive. Maybe you should read some other newspapers for a change? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![stam](https://ifnotnil.com/user_avatar/ifnotnil.com/stam/32/453_2.png) [@stam](https://ifnotnil.com/u/stam)\ **Post date:** [7 June 2020 15:01 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/the-usa-s-slide-into-fascism/522/66 "2020-06-07T15:01:07Z")
hilarious link 😂 😂 😂 ---
**Author:** ![MarkusWinter](https://ifnotnil.com/user_avatar/ifnotnil.com/markuswinter/32/32_2.png) [@MarkusWinter](https://ifnotnil.com/u/MarkusWinter)\ **Post date:** [21 July 2020 23:25 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/the-usa-s-slide-into-fascism/522/67 "2020-07-21T23:25:01Z")
Told ya: > **[Trump consults Bush torture lawyer on how to skirt law and rule by decree](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jul/20/trump-john-yoo-lawyer-torture-waterboarding)** > > John Yoo wrote memo used to justify waterboarding and other forms of torture, with Trump keen to use executive orders and circumvent Congress ---
**Author:** ![npalardy](https://ifnotnil.com/user_avatar/ifnotnil.com/npalardy/32/10_2.png) [@npalardy](https://ifnotnil.com/u/npalardy)\ **Post date:** [22 July 2020 03:12 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/the-usa-s-slide-into-fascism/522/68 "2020-07-22T03:12:43Z")
Unsurprised Esp after what took place in Portland ---
**Author:** ![HMARROQUINC](https://ifnotnil.com/user_avatar/ifnotnil.com/hmarroquinc/32/256_2.png) [@HMARROQUINC](https://ifnotnil.com/u/HMARROQUINC)\ **Post date:** [24 July 2020 00:20 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/the-usa-s-slide-into-fascism/522/69 "2020-07-24T00:20:30Z")
Wow… This is really turning ugly ---
**Author:** ![npalardy](https://ifnotnil.com/user_avatar/ifnotnil.com/npalardy/32/10_2.png) [@npalardy](https://ifnotnil.com/u/npalardy)\ **Post date:** [24 July 2020 04:34 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/the-usa-s-slide-into-fascism/522/70 "2020-07-24T04:34:52Z")
The more Trump tries to quell the unrest the worse it gets If he actually does send more of these units to other Democrat run cities as he has threatened it will escalate quickly Can easy see this getting much much much worse ---
**Author:** ![MarkusWinter](https://ifnotnil.com/user_avatar/ifnotnil.com/markuswinter/32/32_2.png) [@MarkusWinter](https://ifnotnil.com/u/MarkusWinter)\ **Post date:** [24 July 2020 22:23 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/the-usa-s-slide-into-fascism/522/71 "2020-07-24T22:23:40Z")
![image](https://ifnotnil.com/uploads/default/original/1X/f69ac4e71e7e7a8e2c19beae0cb27d9cfa177905.jpeg) 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![MarkusWinter](https://ifnotnil.com/user_avatar/ifnotnil.com/markuswinter/32/32_2.png) [@MarkusWinter](https://ifnotnil.com/u/MarkusWinter)\ **Post date:** [25 July 2020 09:20 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/the-usa-s-slide-into-fascism/522/72 "2020-07-25T09:20:23Z")
Blimey: > **[Trump is using federal agents as his 'goon squad', says Ice's ex-acting head](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jul/24/trump-goon-squad-john-sandweg-homeland-security-ice)** > > John Sandweg says the deployment of homeland security officials is a ‘manufactured crisis’ stemming from ‘a failure of leadership’ > **['That’s an illegal order': veterans challenge Trump's officers in Portland](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jul/24/portland-trump-order-federal-officers-veterans-protests)** > > Two veterans asked federal agents if they understood their oath to defend the constitution as teargas was fired > **[America 'staring down the barrel of martial law', Oregon senator warns](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jul/25/portland-martial-law-ron-wyden-jeff-merkley)** > > Ron Wyden says Portland tactics threaten democracy while fellow Oregon senator Jeff Merkley deplores ‘military-style assault’ ---
**Author:** ![DaveS](https://ifnotnil.com/user_avatar/ifnotnil.com/daves/32/79_2.png) [@DaveS](https://ifnotnil.com/u/DaveS)\ **Post date:** [25 July 2020 14:16 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/the-usa-s-slide-into-fascism/522/73 "2020-07-25T14:16:18Z")
All of Trumps goons will be issued “Brown Shirts” in the coming days ---
**Author:** ![MarkusWinter](https://ifnotnil.com/user_avatar/ifnotnil.com/markuswinter/32/32_2.png) [@MarkusWinter](https://ifnotnil.com/u/MarkusWinter)\ **Post date:** [25 July 2020 14:27 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/the-usa-s-slide-into-fascism/522/74 "2020-07-25T14:27:16Z")
What is wrong with Americans??? And I don’t mean the nutcases as those can’t help themselves: [https://www.mediamatters.org/sinclair-broadcast-group/sinclair-gives-plandemic-conspiracy-theorists-platform-spread-their-lies](https://www.mediamatters.org/sinclair-broadcast-group/sinclair-gives-plandemic-conspiracy-theorists-platform-spread-their-lies) ---
**Author:** ![DaveS](https://ifnotnil.com/user_avatar/ifnotnil.com/daves/32/79_2.png) [@DaveS](https://ifnotnil.com/u/DaveS)\ **Post date:** [25 July 2020 14:33 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/the-usa-s-slide-into-fascism/522/75 "2020-07-25T14:33:18Z")
Its not all Americans. just those idiots that feel the need to spread their sh\*t and feat and unrest. Personally I think Sinclair should be severly sanctoned for this, but it won’t happen, and more people will be convinced Covid is nothing to worry about… ---
**Author:** ![npalardy](https://ifnotnil.com/user_avatar/ifnotnil.com/npalardy/32/10_2.png) [@npalardy](https://ifnotnil.com/u/npalardy)\ **Post date:** [25 July 2020 15:46 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/the-usa-s-slide-into-fascism/522/76 "2020-07-25T15:46:10Z")
This started way way way back And it has been a growing cancer not just in American politics but around the world The disinformation and belief in people of authority instead of scientific evidence Tobacco companies speed out all kinds of secret documents about how to influence people and spread this crap The [energy industry followed that lead](https://archive.thinkprogress.org/chu-compares-climate-disinformation-campaign-to-tobacco-industrys-efforts-9ea1d0cd4ae8/) Various politicians and media companies have joined in To the point we get more authoritarian leaders like Trump, Bolsonaro, Duterte, Netanyahu in “democracies” I have no idea how to fight this crap on a global scale but when I hear it in personal conversations I call it out - politely if I can - and point the person to something from a reputable source (instead of the garbage they use as evidence from “Joe’s Bunch of [Friends.com](http://Friends.com)” The hard part is often this crap science is from [places that seem legitimate](https://www.ucsusa.org/resources/disinformation-playbook) - until you dig into them to find they are nothing more than fronts for bad science and spreading a false narrative. ---
**Author:** ![mikecotrone](https://ifnotnil.com/user_avatar/ifnotnil.com/mikecotrone/32/524_2.png) [@mikecotrone](https://ifnotnil.com/u/mikecotrone)\ **Post date:** [25 July 2020 19:46 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/the-usa-s-slide-into-fascism/522/77 "2020-07-25T19:46:05Z")
What @npalardy said! ---
**Author:** ![MarkusWinter](https://ifnotnil.com/user_avatar/ifnotnil.com/markuswinter/32/32_2.png) [@MarkusWinter](https://ifnotnil.com/u/MarkusWinter)\ **Post date:** [25 July 2020 21:06 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/the-usa-s-slide-into-fascism/522/78 "2020-07-25T21:06:13Z")
The fun bit is that Sinclair tries to cover it’s ass with comments like “we didn’t know they would spread misinformation “ - well, why DID you invite them then? It all seems rather intentional. > [Bolling told CNN](https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/24/media/sinclair-fauci-conspiracy-bolling/index.html?utm_term=1595647543199d1e2210b3199&utm_source=Reliable+Sources+-+July+24%2C+2020&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=229398_1595647543201&bt_ee=Ydz0IpQl4uluYpnAQngdXlbHxFbppOdHMB0Evl98Mgj3OGadO6RiQyhSZtTx9p43&bt_ts=1595647543201) he did not “know of any video [Mikovits] was in prior to or after appearing on my show” and said: “Frankly, I was shocked when she made the accusation.” > > The host also said he had questioned Mikovits’ claim, which onscreen he called “hefty”, and had added Dr Nicole Saphier, a Fox News contributor, to the show in order to provide balance. > > “I asked our producers to add Saphier to the show for the express purpose of debunking the conspiracy theory,” [Bolling said](https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/24/media/sinclair-fauci-conspiracy-bolling/index.html?utm_term=1595647543199d1e2210b3199&utm_source=Reliable+Sources+-+July+24%2C+2020&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=229398_1595647543201&bt_ee=Ydz0IpQl4uluYpnAQngdXlbHxFbppOdHMB0Evl98Mgj3OGadO6RiQyhSZtTx9p43&bt_ts=1595647543201). “I believe viewers see that I did not and do not endorse [Mikovits’] theory.” > > Saphier said it was “highly unlikely” Fauci made the coronavirus. But she also said it was possible the virus was made in a laboratory. So Bolling hadn’t seen anything of Mikovits and was “shocked when she made the accusations” (not “allegations”), but invited her on his show AND added someone for “balance” without allegedly knowing what to balance? But then he asked the producers to add Saphier with “the express purpose of debunking the conspiracy theory” - so he knew all about it and couldn’t possibly have been ‘shocked’. And Saphier did a terrible job at debunking. It all seems like a badly set up farce. ---
**Author:** ![beatrixwillius](https://ifnotnil.com/user_avatar/ifnotnil.com/beatrixwillius/32/24_2.png) [@beatrixwillius](https://ifnotnil.com/u/beatrixwillius)\ **Post date:** [26 July 2020 16:35 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/the-usa-s-slide-into-fascism/522/79 "2020-07-26T16:35:05Z")
@MarkusWinter: thanks for making me laugh. We survived such epidemics before. We really did. But we did it in spite of humans being so dumb. I hope that German holiday travellers must do quarantine when coming back from Spain, too - like the English ones have to do since today. ---
**Author:** ![SpeedLimitChallenger](https://ifnotnil.com/user_avatar/ifnotnil.com/speedlimitchallenger/32/432_2.png) [@SpeedLimitChallenger](https://ifnotnil.com/u/SpeedLimitChallenger)\ **Post date:** [26 July 2020 16:39 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/the-usa-s-slide-into-fascism/522/80 "2020-07-26T16:39:39Z")
> [@beatrixwillius](#): > > I hope that German holiday travellers must do quarantine when coming back from Spain, too - like the English ones have to do since today. [https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/hy4vqt/idiots\_not\_caring\_about\_corona\_arent\_restricted/](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/hy4vqt/idiots_not_caring_about_corona_arent_restricted/) ---
**Author:** ![npalardy](https://ifnotnil.com/user_avatar/ifnotnil.com/npalardy/32/10_2.png) [@npalardy](https://ifnotnil.com/u/npalardy)\ **Post date:** [26 July 2020 16:47 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/the-usa-s-slide-into-fascism/522/81 "2020-07-26T16:47:03Z")
I was pleased to read this article about how they handle people entering Canada after being in the USA > **[Canada Got Better. The United States Got Trump.](https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/07/i-moved-canada-during-pandemic/614569/?utm_source=digg)** > > Two North American nations seemed to be on the same path—and then they diverged. Especially > [@](#): > > Over the next two weeks, that number would receive texts, robocalls, and a live call from Canadian health services. The robocalls delivered motivational messages. They thanked me for keeping Canada safe. After the midpoint of the isolation, they cheerfully ticked off the remaining days: _Only four to go! Only three! Only two!_ The live calls—my wife and I each got one—focused more on our well-being. Did we have enough food? Were we lonely or depressed? Did we need anyone to deliver anything to us? (I’m pleased to report that the caller I spoke with was a reader of _The Atlantic_ .) Now if only we can get more of the covidiots out here to wear masks when they are out and about [Previous page](https://ifnotnil.com/t/the-usa-s-slide-into-fascism/522.md?page=3) [Next page](https://ifnotnil.com/t/the-usa-s-slide-into-fascism/522.md?page=5)