I honestly feel like I have tried to help Xojo grow (no denying my own income at the same time), but if they stay the course, not only myself, but others (with access to more data than me) are pretty certain it will be the end of the company and the product.
You definitely did help Xojo a lot. This is what I was trying to express. It’s not about platform specific code or Xojo’s focus/direction. It is that losing the most passionate and helpful community members and developers hurts Xojo tremendously.
Additionally as you mentioned in your post, when other people see what can be done in Xojo, it helps sell the product too. You really took Xojo to another level with your custom code and add-ons.
No, xojo TextEdit is already a RichEdit control that includes all the power of a word processor app, it is used in the WordPad app.
However, Xojo aproach to controls was really stupid with this, 99.9% you only need a plain text multiline control, being forced to use a full word processor control for that is nuts… The rest of the time when you actually need some styled text, the implementation is a Joke.
Are they even aware that the rest of the industry is transitioning to Declarative UI? Design the UI once and run it on everything from Desktop to mobile, to watch, to TV to VR headsets?
Pretty much how its going at this end, since trying to sell App Wrapper, several people have come forward and said the same thing, that the decline is expected to continue for the foreseeable future.
Thanks Paul.
It certainly reveals more than it should
I guess there would be an equivalent control, all they need do is expose the editing controls and boom, they have an x-plat Rich Text Editor with RTF support… But…
I dont see how it cant
They are being so … insular ? and avoiding most conversations / questions on their own forums
IF they are saying anything its in private so no one can see it
Probably NOT the best strategy at this point ESP if they are trying to reassure people that things are OK, they are in fine financial shape, etc (NONE of which I believe)
Like I said I have been told some things that lead me to believe they are NOT in good shape
Let me say it so: as long as there are users buying the product they have no need to change anything on it. And look on Geoff. He will do this Business from now on how many years? 5? 10? And then it ends up. And I can’t see anybody paying a million for it. So I can’t see a future. While the CEO is at least in my age if not ten years older. So I guess: we will see what will be happened when he retires and how the followers will act if there are followers. All things we can say here are: speculative. So without any sense. I can also look into a crystal ball as a fortune teller, but it doesn’t help.
Specifically the things I’ve heard suggest that sales are down a lot
To the point they are going to lay people off ? No idea
IF your business saw a sudden drop in revenue you might change what you’re doing
Will Geoff ? No idea
I have a hard time imagining anyone paying what Geoff might consider a reasonable offer for it as well
Esp if things ARE in a downturn
Such a buyer would have to put more money in to try & reverse that trend
I dont see it happening
Geoff ? Pretty sure he just recently celebrated a birthday and I think he’s 60 now
I know next to nothing in financial stuff, but if no one dare to buy with the given offer, can’t Geoff decrease the offer, up to the point where someone finally accepts? (like 20 cents ).
It would cost a lot to change course in a quick enough pace to see tangible returns, whoever takes it over isn’t going to see the benefits of change for potentially years, so they need deep pockets and most of the people who have those kinda pockets are gonna wanna see some significant return potential.
In the x-plat market space, Xojo is becoming less and less competitive. Not only does their x-plat vision go against everything else (which is less work, more platforms), each target is missing key features and Xojo’s hasn’t been adding support for newer controls.
Do you think you’ll ever see the “ComboButton” in Xojo, of course not, they *still don’t support ScrollViews from 2000. Let alone modern components like NavigationSplitView, Source Lists, system images, icons in buttons, buttons in the toolbar… etc etc… Pretty standard x-plat UI components.
SwiftUI : Button( "This is my button", systemImage: "folder" ) {}
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