# MBS Con is now larger than Xojo's own Con **URL:** \ **Category:** Xojo\ **Created:** [12 November 2025 05:50 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/mbs-con-is-now-larger-than-xojos-own-con/4494 "2025-11-12T05:50:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![TomasJ](https://ifnotnil.com/user_avatar/ifnotnil.com/tomasj/32/4998_2.png) [@TomasJ](https://ifnotnil.com/u/TomasJ)\ **Post date:** [12 November 2025 05:50 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/mbs-con-is-now-larger-than-xojos-own-con/4494/1 "2025-11-12T05:50:27Z")
Congrats Christian, your conference is larger than Xojo’s own, according to the their latest newsletter: _Join Xojo developers from across Europe and around the world this coming April! Hosted by MonkeyBread Software, and attended by Xojo team members, this is the largest Xojo conference planned for 2026._ 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![SteveW](https://ifnotnil.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/f05b48/32.png) [@SteveW](https://ifnotnil.com/u/SteveW)\ **Post date:** [12 November 2025 09:34 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/mbs-con-is-now-larger-than-xojos-own-con/4494/2 "2025-11-12T09:34:04Z")
> **[NYC Meetup with Geoff Perlman, 11/09/25](https://forum.xojo.com/t/nyc-meetup-with-geoff-perlman-11-09-25/86669)** > > Join Geoff Perlman, Xojo’s Founder and CEO, for an informal lunchtime meetup in New York City on Sunday, November 9th. This casual gathering is a great chance to talk about Xojo, share ideas, and connect with other users in the area. Once we know... This thread was rather quiet… kinda get the impression he ended up sitting there like little Billy No-Mates. ---
**Author:** ![npalardy](https://ifnotnil.com/user_avatar/ifnotnil.com/npalardy/32/10_2.png) [@npalardy](https://ifnotnil.com/u/npalardy)\ **Post date:** [12 November 2025 17:01 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/mbs-con-is-now-larger-than-xojos-own-con/4494/3 "2025-11-12T17:01:00Z")
Of course it is Its got attendance \> 0 since Xojo ISNT doing conferences at all for how many years now ? ---
**Author:** ![npalardy](https://ifnotnil.com/user_avatar/ifnotnil.com/npalardy/32/10_2.png) [@npalardy](https://ifnotnil.com/u/npalardy)\ **Post date:** [12 November 2025 17:03 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/mbs-con-is-now-larger-than-xojos-own-con/4494/4 "2025-11-12T17:03:26Z")
When there are several people they’ll post follow up with pictures etc That they havent sort of says something BUT it has only been a few days Maybe Geoff is still travelling so hasn’t sent Alyssa pics to post ? Give it a week & see - and of course now that its been mentioned HERE there WILL be pictures just because their ever vigilant readers here will tell them about the posts here ---
**Author:** ![TomasJ](https://ifnotnil.com/user_avatar/ifnotnil.com/tomasj/32/4998_2.png) [@TomasJ](https://ifnotnil.com/u/TomasJ)\ **Post date:** [13 November 2025 05:34 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/mbs-con-is-now-larger-than-xojos-own-con/4494/5 "2025-11-13T05:34:45Z")
ok I raise the bar… 2015 I’ve made even a video 😉 [![](https://i.vimeocdn.com/video/545880345-f7fbec530a08801187e45af09927a4e1a792d9e5b3342ab7550505fe47daf75e-d?f=webpion=us "London 2015 Mix-Up") ](https://vimeo.com/147250490) ---
**Author:** ![npalardy](https://ifnotnil.com/user_avatar/ifnotnil.com/npalardy/32/10_2.png) [@npalardy](https://ifnotnil.com/u/npalardy)\ **Post date:** [13 November 2025 13:59 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/mbs-con-is-now-larger-than-xojos-own-con/4494/6 "2025-11-13T13:59:22Z")
Here I was thinking “2015 ? That was in Germany !” But it was 2016 I was in Germany for the MBS Conference I did attend 2015 virtually though 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![npalardy](https://ifnotnil.com/user_avatar/ifnotnil.com/npalardy/32/10_2.png) [@npalardy](https://ifnotnil.com/u/npalardy)\ **Post date:** [13 November 2025 15:01 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/mbs-con-is-now-larger-than-xojos-own-con/4494/7 "2025-11-13T15:01:27Z")
MBS is at Claris’ Tokyo event Looks larger than ANY Xojo event ever ---
**Author:** ![MonkeybreadSoftware](https://ifnotnil.com/user_avatar/ifnotnil.com/monkeybreadsoftware/32/451_2.png) [@MonkeybreadSoftware](https://ifnotnil.com/u/MonkeybreadSoftware)\ **Post date:** [15 November 2025 12:28 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/mbs-con-is-now-larger-than-xojos-own-con/4494/8 "2025-11-15T12:28:15Z")
Thanks for mentioning my conference. The [MBS Xojo Conference](https://www.monkeybreadsoftware.de/xojo/events/andernach-2026-event.shtml) is the only Xojo conference for 2026 and our 14th one. If you are interested to meet other Xojo developers, this is the event to join. Organized from developers for developers with great locations, excellent food and lots of engaged speakers. We would of course be happy to have lots of people there, so we try to keep this affordable. We continue with same prices for 2026 as we had in 2024 for hotel and tickets. ---
**Author:** ![TomasJ](https://ifnotnil.com/user_avatar/ifnotnil.com/tomasj/32/4998_2.png) [@TomasJ](https://ifnotnil.com/u/TomasJ)\ **Post date:** [15 November 2025 12:47 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/mbs-con-is-now-larger-than-xojos-own-con/4494/9 "2025-11-15T12:47:03Z")
Christian, I loved your Cons but unfortunately my love for Xojo ceased to exist many years ago… ---
**Author:** ![npalardy](https://ifnotnil.com/user_avatar/ifnotnil.com/npalardy/32/10_2.png) [@npalardy](https://ifnotnil.com/u/npalardy)\ **Post date:** [15 November 2025 15:51 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/mbs-con-is-now-larger-than-xojos-own-con/4494/10 "2025-11-15T15:51:38Z")
I’d still find it a great excuse to come to Germany ! And it was a lot of fun ---
**Author:** ![thorstenstueker](https://ifnotnil.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/aca169/32.png) [@thorstenstueker](https://ifnotnil.com/u/thorstenstueker)\ **Post date:** [15 November 2025 16:39 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/mbs-con-is-now-larger-than-xojos-own-con/4494/11 "2025-11-15T16:39:43Z")
At least there is a conference for the developers made by MBS. Thanks for that. Cause developers needing all help they can get. ---
**Author:** ![bkeeney](https://ifnotnil.com/user_avatar/ifnotnil.com/bkeeney/32/225_2.png) [@bkeeney](https://ifnotnil.com/u/bkeeney)\ **Post date:** [17 November 2025 15:30 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/mbs-con-is-now-larger-than-xojos-own-con/4494/12 "2025-11-17T15:30:27Z")
I always found the MBS conferences to be way more fun and engaging than the official Xojo conferences. And way less expensive. Christian, you’ve always been a great host going above and beyond for those of us coming from out of country. The sight seeing tours and get togethers were great. While I’m using Xojo every day, my job is converting _from_ Xojo to Go. It’s a daily reminder of how bad the Xojo IDE is in comparison to VSCode. ---
**Author:** ![HalGumbert](https://ifnotnil.com/user_avatar/ifnotnil.com/halgumbert/32/2198_2.png) [@HalGumbert](https://ifnotnil.com/u/HalGumbert)\ **Post date:** [17 November 2025 16:18 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/mbs-con-is-now-larger-than-xojos-own-con/4494/13 "2025-11-17T16:18:57Z")
I hated that dinner theater mess where we weren’t even allow to talk during dinner… ---
**Author:** ![bkeeney](https://ifnotnil.com/user_avatar/ifnotnil.com/bkeeney/32/225_2.png) [@bkeeney](https://ifnotnil.com/u/bkeeney)\ **Post date:** [17 November 2025 19:03 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/mbs-con-is-now-larger-than-xojos-own-con/4494/14 "2025-11-17T19:03:40Z")
> [@HalGumbert](#): > > I hated that dinner theater mess where we weren’t even allow to talk during dinner… Carol and I skipped that event (and took employees and a client out to a nice dinner instead) and got read the riot act by Dana. It cost them money, it was disrespectful, etc. They didn’t give us a choice of attending and it wasn’t our thing so we spent our own money, in addition to the conference fee, to eat a better meal and have a much better experience. After having run my own Xojo event a few times, and done the MBS events, it was clear that Xojo wanted a Porsche event but we developers wanted the Ford pricing. I’m not sure they ever understood that. I wanted it to be as cheap as possible to get as many people to the event as we could. IIRC we gave some money to the speakers at one of the events to help cover some of their costs (it’s possible I’m not remembering that correctly - but I know we talked about it). The other things that was such bullshit about the Xojo conferences were the surprises that Geoff would give his own developers. It turned into the ‘oh shit, I guess we’ll spend the next year making this happen’ sort of surprise, or he’d outright lie in regards to how close something was (API 2.0 or Web 2.0 anyone?), or give demo’s that were so scripted they were meaningless. Can’t tell you how many conversations I had with him where he’d tell me what he thought I wanted to hear only to hear him give a different story to someone else when I wasn’t the focus of his attention. At then at some point they stopped giving relevant information during the conferences. I think that was in part their developers got fed up with Geoff promising shit they hadn’t vetted. But again that speaks volumes to how small of a development team they had and the lack of proper planning they were able to do. So why bother going to a Xojo sponsored event? ---
**Author:** ![Torsten\_B](https://ifnotnil.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/ecae2f/32.png) [@Torsten\_B](https://ifnotnil.com/u/Torsten_B)\ **Post date:** [17 November 2025 19:21 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/mbs-con-is-now-larger-than-xojos-own-con/4494/15 "2025-11-17T19:21:24Z")
Huh. Had you been invited to Alcatraz dining hall? ---
**Author:** ![npalardy](https://ifnotnil.com/user_avatar/ifnotnil.com/npalardy/32/10_2.png) [@npalardy](https://ifnotnil.com/u/npalardy)\ **Post date:** [17 November 2025 20:09 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/mbs-con-is-now-larger-than-xojos-own-con/4494/16 "2025-11-17T20:09:15Z")
Funny how so many disliked that murder mystery thing ---
**Author:** ![npalardy](https://ifnotnil.com/user_avatar/ifnotnil.com/npalardy/32/10_2.png) [@npalardy](https://ifnotnil.com/u/npalardy)\ **Post date:** [17 November 2025 20:11 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/mbs-con-is-now-larger-than-xojos-own-con/4494/17 "2025-11-17T20:11:20Z")
> [@bkeeney](#): > > Carol and I skipped that event (and took employees and a client out to a nice dinner instead) and got read the riot act by Dana. It cost them money, it was disrespectful, etc. They didn’t give us a choice of attending and it wasn’t our thing so we spent our own money, in addition to the conference fee, to eat a better meal and have a much better experience. Seriously ??? Wow never knew that until now > [@bkeeney](#): > > After having run my own Xojo event a few times, and done the MBS events, it was clear that Xojo wanted a Porsche event but we developers wanted the Ford pricing. Absolutely and that came up EVERY year as feedback EVERY. DAMN. YEAR. ---
**Author:** ![HalGumbert](https://ifnotnil.com/user_avatar/ifnotnil.com/halgumbert/32/2198_2.png) [@HalGumbert](https://ifnotnil.com/u/HalGumbert)\ **Post date:** [17 November 2025 20:41 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/mbs-con-is-now-larger-than-xojos-own-con/4494/18 "2025-11-17T20:41:56Z")
> [@bkeeney](#): > > got read the riot act by Dana. It cost them money, it was disrespectful, etc. Actually, WE paid for that with our attendance fees. Xojo just spent OUR money. It was disrespectful to waste our time and money with that nonsense. Just a with a lot of things, Xojo gets mad when they make poor decision and are called out on it. It’s why they are in such a bad place… ---
**Author:** ![bkeeney](https://ifnotnil.com/user_avatar/ifnotnil.com/bkeeney/32/225_2.png) [@bkeeney](https://ifnotnil.com/u/bkeeney)\ **Post date:** [17 November 2025 21:11 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/mbs-con-is-now-larger-than-xojos-own-con/4494/19 "2025-11-17T21:11:08Z")
Frankly, I think most of us just wanted to be able to sit around and talk with other developers about our needs and desires and if a Xojo employee was there even better. It was one of the reasons I absolutely hated Las Vegas. It’s a loud and noisy place and they push you closer to the center of the casino the later it is and the center is even louder and more chaotic. Just made an expensive event less desirable. ---
**Author:** ![HalGumbert](https://ifnotnil.com/user_avatar/ifnotnil.com/halgumbert/32/2198_2.png) [@HalGumbert](https://ifnotnil.com/u/HalGumbert)\ **Post date:** [17 November 2025 22:55 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/mbs-con-is-now-larger-than-xojos-own-con/4494/20 "2025-11-17T22:55:15Z")
I gotta give Geoff credit at Vegas and another city. There was a big table of peeps and Geoff picked up the bill. Very cool gesture, [Next page](https://ifnotnil.com/t/mbs-con-is-now-larger-than-xojos-own-con/4494.md?page=2)