They developed great mastership in blurring their own statements when challenged on them.
https://forum.xojo.com/t/why-use-web-2-0/63239/68
And she completly ignored the comment about what the CEO said…
Maybe they are already preparing another misleading blog post 
Discussions with Xojo‘s senior staff are pointless. Even written statements are explained away when they become inconvenient.
This is why they don’t like to use email or forum to communicate… but want private phone calls…
Makes it easier to deny they said or did not say something… as there is no documentation
Oh I would never say that !
uh huh
World class customer care: “… it’s not impossible (as you suggested) but we are not configured to be able to do it at a moment’s notice…”.
Reminds me of
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJHPfpOnDzg
This reminds me of arguing about religion.
“It says right here in black and white …”
“But it doesn’t mean that / you are using the wrong translation / taking it out of context / trying to twist what is says”
Geoff and Dana are really good at gaslighting.
Deduction vs delusion…
Divide and rule…it’s the tired old Machiavellian playbook.
The same amount I am in fight with Ivan I have to tell: yo Ivan is 100 percent right
Total inability to understand their customer’s concern: https://forum.xojo.com/t/why-use-web-2-0/63239/75
that its a cut & paste exact quote and he still claims Ivan didnt quote hmmm is … amazing
It is a question of willing!
Xojo could and would not update. That is the end of the Line for all Xojo Web 1.0 Applications. But I can’t understand how people could still believe to the Support and possible Updates after my WARNINGS until August 2000 where I got banned exactly because of this warnings.
Did anybody really believed it deeply? Or did they wanted to believe it? I guess they wanted to believe it so the world is a better one and there is no need for rewriting their Apps.
Now, two years later, there is still no migration path for Web 1.0 to Web 2.0 Apps and the most active Xojo Web Apps are not written in Xojo Web 2.0. Why? While it is not possible to refit the Application within minutes.
Xojo quoted that they will provide UPDATES if there are Browser Issues or OS Issues for future. I said when it was written that it is a lie. And I said why it is so that there will be no help and no update.
When and if they would mean that serious there would have been a serious guarantee. There was none. Geoff wanted to be out of the discussion between both of us that Customers like me with huge investments in their Software will be quit while there is the needed security.
Knowing this Xojo had never an interest even to spend Support. There was no Support for Web 1.0 after and that is also proven. Als there was no real base for the Support while the forum was switched to the newer versions. Hey, it is a customer forum but not a Support Forum. So what we expect? That there is a serious Support of the vendor? No. We expect that there is a Support through the customers. And yes, they have done a good Job. As far as I can say: they tried always to bring a Solution.
At the end this forum could not spend Support. For example for the functionality client time which shall get the client time. It does not. And while it does not there is a small problem: there was never a Support for it. It brings back the Client time System. Wow, what a big surprise that will not work for Systems outside the internet.
Support: none. Nothing. Nada.
So we could see and know that there will be no support. I am sure that They never planned really to spend Support.
But let’s have a look on what they said. Wasn’t there something If the OS or Browser breaks your program…yes. But that means that they will tell you something but that there is no Support.
I dicidid before to rewrite the App. In Java. Why? While I did not wanted to be in the middle of something I have nothing to do with. So I decided to get outa there. That was the best point on it. So I was able to prove that they lie. And in parallel to begin rewriting of the Applications I have done with Xojo.
But all the others saw no perspective and have done mostly nothing. Still believing that I was only ranting. Ranting while I could not accept that Xojo was right (yes, some users told me something like that in private messages) And at the end I got banned. For speaking truths.
All the discussions around were ending up. And so the Xojo Story could end up. But it did not. While now everybody using Web 1.0 gets that there is still a need for updates otherwise the Apps will not run. Now it comes up again and everybody wants to get informations. And the information is: we will tell you what we know but more support we will nt provide.
If it would be so that people would be angry that the CEO promised something else I could get. But so?
I guess my English is not good enough and I can’t make my point clear. Sorry.
Alberto you don’t have all the stuffs we wrote about and start to cover Xojo. The Problem behind is may be not interesting for you but still: there are users lost much money because of this change out of the Blum. So sorry that in my eyes it is definitely different.
I guess my English is not good enough and I can’t make my point clear. Sorry.
NO THERE IS A BETTER CHANCE CHANGING THE PLATFORM RELYING ON. Only with a sustainable platform it is possible to write Software for long term use. With Xojo you can not give any guarantee for functionality over a timeframe of three years looking on it.