# Forever license? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Programming\ **Created:** [1 November 2026 19:01 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/forever-license/4894 "2026-11-01T19:01:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![MarkusWinter](https://ifnotnil.com/user_avatar/ifnotnil.com/markuswinter/32/32_2.png) [@MarkusWinter](https://ifnotnil.com/u/MarkusWinter)\ **Post date:** [1 November 2026 19:01 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/forever-license/4894/1 "2026-11-01T19:01:27Z")
Doesn’t just apply to Xojo but everything, but still a nice example why “You can use the license you bought forever“ isn’t what it seems to be: > **[Drag and drop a project control onto w window not working in latest OSX](https://forum.xojo.com/t/drag-and-drop-a-project-control-onto-w-window-not-working-in-latest-osx/89087/8)** > > To be clear about this… although this has been explained already on other threads of the Forum: Latest macOS update changed how it works. Both the IDE and the compiled macOS apps were affected by this Apple change. ANY app compiled and deployed... As for Xojo all the Lite license holders without current subscription are screwed - pay $499 or be unable to run your apps on the new MacOS. ---
**Author:** ![bgrommes](https://ifnotnil.com/user_avatar/ifnotnil.com/bgrommes/32/2651_2.png) [@bgrommes](https://ifnotnil.com/u/bgrommes)\ **Post date:** [1 November 2026 19:36 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/forever-license/4894/2 "2026-11-01T19:36:55Z")
Say what you will about Windows, it has at least in the past been backward compatible to a fault. Whereas Apple has always casually broken things like this. I’m curious, however, if there’s any valid argument that this would not happen to, e.g., Objo or Buoy if certain practices are followed. Forgive me for suspecting this was avoidable, but I was around in the Xojo world when it turned out they detected OS versions from parsing the OS version string rather than the Apple-approved way, when Apple guidance was that they were not guaranteeing the version string returned by the OS would follow past patterns. It was supposed to be a friendly human readable description, not a source of truth that would never break existing assumptions. ---
**Author:** ![Stretch327](https://ifnotnil.com/user_avatar/ifnotnil.com/stretch327/32/5162_2.png) [@Stretch327](https://ifnotnil.com/u/Stretch327)\ **Post date:** [1 November 2026 21:09 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/forever-license/4894/3 "2026-11-01T21:09:20Z")
Yeah…🤦 Xojo has been doing drag and drop the same way on macOS since the beginning even though Apple has made changes over the years. Several people tried and failed to get them to update. But that would have required breaking people’s code. BTW - Buoy’s drag and drop model doesn’t suffer from this issue. NOTE: the assertion that Xojo is using macOS frameworks is kind of a misnomer. Yes they are, but the method has been deprecated for _years_. ---
**Author:** ![Stretch327](https://ifnotnil.com/user_avatar/ifnotnil.com/stretch327/32/5162_2.png) [@Stretch327](https://ifnotnil.com/u/Stretch327)\ **Post date:** [1 November 2026 21:19 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/forever-license/4894/4 "2026-11-01T21:19:52Z")
> [@MarkusWinter](#): > > especially the guy who had extended his Lite license till 2030 I’m curious if this person you’re talking about actually has lost functionality. Just because they’re not selling lite licenses any more doesn’t mean they actively went through the IDE and stripped out the licensing code. They could have but it seems like a huge waste of time just to piss off people who have already given you money. All the more reason I need to get the shim and converter done asafp. ---
**Author:** ![npalardy](https://ifnotnil.com/user_avatar/ifnotnil.com/npalardy/32/10_2.png) [@npalardy](https://ifnotnil.com/u/npalardy)\ **Post date:** [1 November 2026 22:50 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/forever-license/4894/5 "2026-11-01T22:50:31Z")
still makes me wonder WHY do this ? All it does is piss off people who want to give you money And probably decreases their revenue from what it had already likely collapsed to after all the other price increases But to the point of “being able to use your license forever” Yes - you can Never update your OS Apple, and even MS, have at times done stuff in OS updates that have broken existing code Apple just happens to see it more as a sport to do this than MS does ---
**Author:** ![MarkusWinter](https://ifnotnil.com/user_avatar/ifnotnil.com/markuswinter/32/32_2.png) [@MarkusWinter](https://ifnotnil.com/u/MarkusWinter)\ **Post date:** [2 November 2026 00:20 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/forever-license/4894/6 "2026-11-02T00:20:41Z")
> [@Stretch327](#): > > I’m curious if this person you’re talking about actually has lost functionality. You are correct - my mistake. I remove that part.