Could it be Saved?

it is what it is
I truly had no idea if there was or wasnt a board of any kind
But I did know he retained the majority % of shares

I think many here believe that with the right leadership, RB/Xojo could have become a lot bigger player in the field than it is, but that time has passed a good while ago.

  • Karen

Absolutely, RB/Xojo was well ahead in the x-plat game, the only reason they didn’t become the x-plat dev tool is because of poor vision, leading to a failure to adapt.

Now every big tech co is in the x-plat game. Declarative UI is the future (still a ways to go), design and build one app in one project and compile it to true native apps on multiple devices.

I’ve almost finished converting my first app to SwiftUI (I would have done it sooner, if I did a 1:1 conversion), it takes up 1/6th of the disk space of the Xojo app and already includes more functionality (under the hood). I still need to port my update system, but I doubt that’s going to balloon the app by 15mb.

Yesterday I created a little app to help me with something, and I forgot how much of default app that SwiftUI provides for me, which took me a long time to figure out how to do properly in Xojo.

There’s nothing stopping Xojo from using the same template as SwiftUI on Mac and whatever for other targets, except that they don’t see a need for it, because they’re too blinkered and not aware of what goes on outside, Geoff still talks about programming as if it were the 90s, it’s not and the rest of the world is moving on at a rabid pace, too fast if you ask me, but it’s better than the painfully paint drying speed of Xojo.

This pretty much sums it up nicely, Sam. For as much talk about ‘embracing change’ as Geoff does he really hasn’t done much change other than put lipstick on a pig and rearrange the deck chairs.

With that said, I do appreciate the efficiency gains and speed increases in R4. That should be an ongoing task for the team, but of course they have so many targets now that it’s never the priority. Whether or not we renew any licenses is still up in the air.

KBasic is abaondonware and is not cross platform so it’s not in the running.

Faster is nice
but I need it to work
I have an app works fine in R3.1 and not at all in R4
Worst part is it has certain other dependencies that theres no way I can put together a sample to demonstrate it
Essentially it calls several methods in a module in r3,1
And only the FIRST of several in R4
No errors
No warnings
No exceptions
It just doesnt
Damned if I know why

Can’t you privately join the project?

I’d need to submit 3
And a PostgreSQL database
And they’d need detailed instructions on how to run the entire set up to see the issue
I’ve tried slimming it down to a simpler example and have not been able to replicate the issue

Run this exact same code in 2023r3.1 and it works
Open and run it in R4 and it doesnt

Is the issue x-platform? If not, which platform?

-Karen

Android and I’m checking another project using a web project as it seems to be the same problem

Hi all,

I am just thinking, will B4X not a good Xojo alternative? Anybody any experience with B4X or idea?

I use it for Android, iOS and Webservices. Way superior to Xojo.
But I dont like it for desktop and for web is not RAD.

Hi Ivan,

Exactly my toughts too. Personally, I find it a good alternative for Xojo.