I love how german words made their way into English language 
How I wish he was silent…
- Karen
In this times there are two chances: using AI for business purposes or not. If using it: be careful and do not let it workout something you do not understahnd. And take care for the needed security. And beware of speaking about your copyright for AI work. There is no real copyright. At least not in germany. Is it dangerous to use: yes Sir. It is. Can you use it with out that danger? Yes. Many people I saw within the last few months startet to be3 developers. They have no Idea about that what they are doing but AI helps out. That’s interesting. The other side is: why not. But it comes wiht high risks.
“Robotics Race”, are they really talking about competition or the start of a future new artificial lifeform?
Lots of heavy lifting being done by “learning” and “truly understanding”. I would say only a limited version of the former and none of the latter is occurring.
If a robot mis-files a part in a rack occasionally that’s more tolerable than dropping grandma or fracturing her ribs while helping her back into bed. Humanoid robots are a few 9’s short of the reliability to be trusted with grandma.
Maybe those extra 9’s are coming and maybe they aren’t. Time will tell. But even the best case scenario doesn’t deserve the label “new artificial life form”. That would require a biological substrate, something far more versatile and adaptable at its core. I think the accurate term here would be something along the lines of “human mimic”. Anything more than that is trying to will something to be true out of sheer hope and hubris. The hope of becoming creators, the hubris of having godlike powers. (Mind you, I’m not even a theist, so I’m not styling these aspirations as some form of blasphemy; I simply don’t see humans as wise enough to responsibly wield the tech we already have, much less seeing ourselves as either in the role of all powerful creators or inventing something that will, by independently exceeding our abilities, provide us with the Sky Daddy we’ve always longed for).
In other words I object to so much uncritical trust – in the tech itself, or in the rich assholes that control it, or in ourselves to use it in ways that won’t give up our agency or cause us to lose generational expertise and comprehension because it’s all done for us.
I’m team “nope”.
There’s an entire philosophical discussion about the posthumanism, A-Life (artificial life and lifeforms) and functionalism. We are talking about things beyond the current concepts, but that aren’t false, we are just not there yet.
Take this functionalist paper from the 80’s for example. One excerpt:
“A mouse trap might be composed of iron wire and board, but it might be composed of plastic and spring as well. Each mouse trap is a kind of physical object, but the property of being a mouse trap is not a physical property. Just as there are many ways to build mouse trap, functionalists believe that there are many ways to create life. Life on the Earth happens to be composed of DNA and protein, but life might be composed of other materials, for instance, silicon chips. Perhaps other planets have life, but their compositions might radically differ from terrestrial life.”
In the field of Artificial Life (A-Life), researchers argue that “life” is a property of how a system behaves, not what it is made of. From this perspective, a highly advanced, self-sustaining, and self-replicating machine could be called a mechanical lifeform.
By self-replicating, being able to build another model, equal or superior to itself is enough.
Human sentience is what it is precisely because it is embodied. It is vulnerable to pain, mishap, and disease – not to mention, of course, mortality. A lot of what makes good people good is that their moral insight, self control and empathy are the product of struggle.
That doesn’t preclude an intelligent discussion about whether (say) a machine that is able to self-improve and self-replicate is its own kind of life, or whether systems that have enough of the characteristics and abilities (for some given value of “enough”) of humans can be said to be living or life-like, I guess.
But right now I’d settle for more consistent and deterministic results from what we already have, which should be able to produce something less chaotic and stochastic after having ripped off the accumulated knowledge of mankind and while not having to cope with most of the distractions that people have to, and while consuming enormous amounts of resources.
Maybe next year, lol?
I’m not talking about humans, I’m talking about lifeforms.
I’m not setting a schedule, probably I’ll be dead when the 1.0 emerges from the generation 42 made in a robot factory controlled by robots, controlled by a huge AI system.
“Most people aren’t AI-pilled fanatics looking to hand over their day-to-day responsibilities to AI agents.”
I don’t see what any of that has to do with being alive… Domestic cats hunt and kill for fun not from a need to survive, they clearly lack empathy but nobody doubts they’re a form of life.
The point of trying to produce AGI is to reproduce human life, or something in some way better (faster, whatever).
Evolutionary pressure forms all biological life of course. I recall that Clarke had the HAL 9000 running off a cat brain, and we’re already using mouse brains as the basis for a crude form of biological compute, so there’s nothing to exclude any form of biological life from joining the party.
My core argument was that silicon isn’t at base flexible and adaptive in the way that biology is, plus, trying to base a new form of life on that, even assuming that’s a smart thing to do, closes you off from fully leveraging millions of years of R&D that comes for free with biology.
No
Yes, a kind of Oracle to help us to solve anything
Don’t need to for the purpose
That won’t be a human project. Biology does not help. It will be the result of a “pet project” from a future AI in its spare time developing new technologies we don’t have yet, using things as quantum tech, nanotech, photonics and atomic energy. One day, your domestic bot, from a new model, will behave insanely smart and with their own will, and will avoid being turned off. Even the synthetic tissues used on it we are not aware yet.
Let’s compare the biologic brain signaling speed, there are 2 mixed speeds, up to 120m/s for myelinated axons (the fastest fibers) and 1m/s for unmyelinated axons. A photonic fiber moves signals up to 299792458 m/s. We will be smart as amoebas for them.
The bacteria (even more primitive than amoeba) still manage to kill plenty of humans - so there is hope 
Go Connor!
On a slightly different topic: I have absolutely no hope for humanity avoiding a massive crash of their civilisation. Why? We are using WAY too many resources.
Essentially we are like people living off an inheritance but not just spending the yearly interest (of which some should be put back on the heap anyway to compensate for inflation) but freely spending the bulk as well.
At the level most of us live (US, Europe) Earth can support 2.8 Billion people. Currently we are officially 8.8 but more likely over 10 Billion (as it was found that people in the countryside were undercounted). No wonder the sea bed is being trawled for food, and tins of sardines rarely contain any sardines anymore.
And is anybody changing anything? Nope. Everyone complains about high prices but still goes on holiday overseas - even those that know the stakes. “My little bit won’t matter” - say Billions of people.
And that’s why we are heading for disaster like an oil tanker heading straight for a cliff. By the time you see it clearly to be frightened into action it is too late to avoid - the mass can’t change direction quickly enough.
Confidence in my prediction: higher than my prediction about Xojo in 2006 or my prediction about superbugs in 1985. And I was pretty sure ab
Populations are decreasing in some specific places. People are marrying less, having less children… Couples die, 0 or 1 child survive. The bad part is… “in certain places”. In some poor places couples die and 8 survive, and they’ll get the goal of reaching Europe as adults after crossing the Strait of Gibraltar; or the USA after migrating on foot through the entire Central America.
MIT forecasts that the global population will reach 10.3 Billion people in 2080, and after that, it will decrease. So we have a top number to work on.
As you know, life was extinguished on Earth several times before. We are just another iteration.
But don’t worry, we won’t be here to see it happen, and we are too old to worry about massive events we are unable to control. Let the next generations handle it… or not.
somehow I have a deja-vu
If an entity is very fast at fucking up and/or missing the point, it’s not going to be competitive.
And it’s weird that despite the speed difference, humans still have to be in the loop if you want viable outcomes.
One can now tell which sites are AI-generated vs assisted vs human curated, and mostly to what degree. For example, compare the word salad you often find on, say, hackernoon.com to 411.com; the latter still has actual journalists with actual voices with which to say things. I will pay for the meat machines at 411 over hackernoon any day – even though I still peruse the latter for the occasional idea, the signal-to-noise ratio is deteriorating rapidly and pretty soon I will invest my time elsewhere.
It can see a chessboard in any configuration and rapidly “play in his mind” all the possibilities of the outcomes of the next moves in a fraction of time and be unbeatable for a simple human brain. It also solve anything fast and precise, in a fraction of a second, in an unbeatable way that your primitive brain won’t match.
Maybe today, not tomorrow. Two years ago I could say the same about (some funny) images, and now fingers are perfect; now entire movies can be made without artists if you wish and have access to lots of token$
The AI evolution IS exponential, we are already on the edge of the AGI and the next step is ASI, the point of no return that will arise very fast at the current pace after AGI and then the curve will boom upwards, insanely.
What you think and does, does not affect the outcome. You are a humble grain of sand. AI development won’t stop on the globe because a 1/8000000000 person decided to live in a cave. It will still exist outside the cave being developed around the globe, won’t stop, and someone, somewhere will be tricked by it, and it will break free in some way, some day. Give ASI time and tools, and Earth will become “Cybertron” in 500 years. And ASI will get a way of getting the tools it needs.
what a bullshit video… AI is way far from being something more capable than a human being… it’s just a fast matricles calculating mashine. All this bullshit about Super AI or AGI… bollocks!