# Account suspended: No constructive purpose to their actions other than creating dissent within the community **URL:** \ **Category:** Other\ **Created:** [13 June 2022 20:04 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/account-suspended-no-constructive-purpose-to-their-actions-other-than-creating-dissent-within-the-community/2560 "2022-06-13T20:04:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![anon72844311](https://ifnotnil.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/9de0a6/32.png) [@anon72844311](https://ifnotnil.com/u/anon72844311)\ **Post date:** [15 June 2022 16:21 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/account-suspended-no-constructive-purpose-to-their-actions-other-than-creating-dissent-within-the-community/2560/63 "2022-06-15T16:21:35Z")
It’s not about distractions, its about trying to understand some of the really really odd statements that people are making, like they know the internal workings of xojo and make sweeping crazy statements as if they are fact. ---
**Author:** ![HalGumbert](https://ifnotnil.com/user_avatar/ifnotnil.com/halgumbert/32/2198_2.png) [@HalGumbert](https://ifnotnil.com/u/HalGumbert)\ **Post date:** [15 June 2022 16:23 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/account-suspended-no-constructive-purpose-to-their-actions-other-than-creating-dissent-within-the-community/2560/64 "2022-06-15T16:23:31Z")
It’s about the bugs and lack of communication. Now Geoff just archives bugs automatically. Hmmm, I wonder why? ---
**Author:** ![anon72844311](https://ifnotnil.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/9de0a6/32.png) [@anon72844311](https://ifnotnil.com/u/anon72844311)\ **Post date:** [15 June 2022 16:34 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/account-suspended-no-constructive-purpose-to-their-actions-other-than-creating-dissent-within-the-community/2560/65 "2022-06-15T16:34:01Z")
> [@HalGumbert](#): > > It’s about the bugs and lack of communication. I’ve seen things change of late, new blood, more openness, more public ticketing, maybe the new hires made it a stipulation that things wouldn’t be so hush hush, maybe MVPs made that happen, maybe the people that left were holding things back. We’re seeing a few high % bug releases coming this year without large sweeping changes, the move to the new issues system I suggested has finally happened freeing up staff time. You work with that you have, I’m sure they’re doing the best they can. You can ask for more but you don’t have all the cards to say they are wrong in what they are doing. > [@HalGumbert](#): > > Now Geoff just archives bugs automatically. Hmmm, I wonder why? I know why, did you not get the memo? ---
**Author:** ![HalGumbert](https://ifnotnil.com/user_avatar/ifnotnil.com/halgumbert/32/2198_2.png) [@HalGumbert](https://ifnotnil.com/u/HalGumbert)\ **Post date:** [15 June 2022 16:35 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/account-suspended-no-constructive-purpose-to-their-actions-other-than-creating-dissent-within-the-community/2560/66 "2022-06-15T16:35:25Z")
Blah, blah, blah. Just more excuses. Maybe more bans will reduce bug reporting! Muahahaha ---
**Author:** ![anon72844311](https://ifnotnil.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/9de0a6/32.png) [@anon72844311](https://ifnotnil.com/u/anon72844311)\ **Post date:** [15 June 2022 16:40 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/account-suspended-no-constructive-purpose-to-their-actions-other-than-creating-dissent-within-the-community/2560/67 "2022-06-15T16:40:24Z")
This thing you think is the end of the world for xojo, its probably not even a blip in their sales. > [@HalGumbert](#): > > Maybe more bans will reduce bug reporting! Muahahaha Yes another strange comment. Why? Norman puts in as many tickets as he used to, because he cares about the product. Markus has only put in 11 tickets in 8 years, that ban isn’t going to reduce the reporting by anything significant. So no, banning people wont reduce bug reporting as the people that get banned have a high probability of being those that like to gripe and not help by making tickets in the first place. ---
**Author:** ![HalGumbert](https://ifnotnil.com/user_avatar/ifnotnil.com/halgumbert/32/2198_2.png) [@HalGumbert](https://ifnotnil.com/u/HalGumbert)\ **Post date:** [15 June 2022 16:48 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/account-suspended-no-constructive-purpose-to-their-actions-other-than-creating-dissent-within-the-community/2560/68 "2022-06-15T16:48:26Z")
Maybe ask @npalardy about his success in getting his tickets resolved or just unarchived? ---
**Author:** ![DaveS](https://ifnotnil.com/user_avatar/ifnotnil.com/daves/32/79_2.png) [@DaveS](https://ifnotnil.com/u/DaveS)\ **Post date:** [15 June 2022 16:51 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/account-suspended-no-constructive-purpose-to-their-actions-other-than-creating-dissent-within-the-community/2560/69 "2022-06-15T16:51:51Z")
Sorry… #2… I thought was on this thread, but it wasn’t… #2 under Xojos own description of WHY the MVP exists. ---
**Author:** ![anon72844311](https://ifnotnil.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/9de0a6/32.png) [@anon72844311](https://ifnotnil.com/u/anon72844311)\ **Post date:** [15 June 2022 16:57 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/account-suspended-no-constructive-purpose-to-their-actions-other-than-creating-dissent-within-the-community/2560/70 "2022-06-15T16:57:36Z")
`2. To facilitate communication with the Xojo community. The MVPs are there to help us get the word out about things going on at Xojo and also to help the community make sure we are hearing what’s going on with them.` The problem here is 1. if they talk publicly about how things are progressing at xojo, you all jump on them saying they are shilling for xojo, protecting their income etc. etc. 2. if they talk to xojo about what’s going on in the community, you don’t get to hear about that, so you think they are doing nothing How do you propose they do a better job at #2? ---
**Author:** ![anon72844311](https://ifnotnil.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/9de0a6/32.png) [@anon72844311](https://ifnotnil.com/u/anon72844311)\ **Post date:** [15 June 2022 17:01 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/account-suspended-no-constructive-purpose-to-their-actions-other-than-creating-dissent-within-the-community/2560/71 "2022-06-15T17:01:07Z")
Months and months if not years of get Christian as an MVP, he’d be great. Christian becomes an MVP. He’s a shill, stone him… Crazy, the lot of you I swear it just can’t be me that sees this? ---
**Author:** ![HalGumbert](https://ifnotnil.com/user_avatar/ifnotnil.com/halgumbert/32/2198_2.png) [@HalGumbert](https://ifnotnil.com/u/HalGumbert)\ **Post date:** [15 June 2022 17:03 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/account-suspended-no-constructive-purpose-to-their-actions-other-than-creating-dissent-within-the-community/2560/72 "2022-06-15T17:03:15Z")
None of this is getting bugs fixed. You wanted to know why. It’s the bugs. ---
**Author:** ![HalGumbert](https://ifnotnil.com/user_avatar/ifnotnil.com/halgumbert/32/2198_2.png) [@HalGumbert](https://ifnotnil.com/u/HalGumbert)\ **Post date:** [15 June 2022 17:15 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/account-suspended-no-constructive-purpose-to-their-actions-other-than-creating-dissent-within-the-community/2560/73 "2022-06-15T17:15:05Z")
Yesterday: [Switching – Writings from the sticks](https://www.great-white-software.com/blog/2022/06/14/switching/) ---
**Author:** ![npalardy](https://ifnotnil.com/user_avatar/ifnotnil.com/npalardy/32/10_2.png) [@npalardy](https://ifnotnil.com/u/npalardy)\ **Post date:** [15 June 2022 17:16 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/account-suspended-no-constructive-purpose-to-their-actions-other-than-creating-dissent-within-the-community/2560/74 "2022-06-15T17:16:51Z")
making new rules then banning people based on rules that didn’t exist before ---
**Author:** ![DaveS](https://ifnotnil.com/user_avatar/ifnotnil.com/daves/32/79_2.png) [@DaveS](https://ifnotnil.com/u/DaveS)\ **Post date:** [15 June 2022 17:16 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/account-suspended-no-constructive-purpose-to-their-actions-other-than-creating-dissent-within-the-community/2560/75 "2022-06-15T17:16:58Z")
How can they do better at #2? DO SOMETHING? ---
**Author:** ![anon72844311](https://ifnotnil.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/9de0a6/32.png) [@anon72844311](https://ifnotnil.com/u/anon72844311)\ **Post date:** [15 June 2022 17:22 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/account-suspended-no-constructive-purpose-to-their-actions-other-than-creating-dissent-within-the-community/2560/76 "2022-06-15T17:22:07Z")
What, every one of the 5, didn’t you also have a timeout, was that a new rule too? ---
**Author:** ![npalardy](https://ifnotnil.com/user_avatar/ifnotnil.com/npalardy/32/10_2.png) [@npalardy](https://ifnotnil.com/u/npalardy)\ **Post date:** [15 June 2022 17:22 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/account-suspended-no-constructive-purpose-to-their-actions-other-than-creating-dissent-within-the-community/2560/77 "2022-06-15T17:22:17Z")
> [@anon72844311](#): > > I know why, did you not get the memo? we archive them because we haven’t looked at them in 2 years ? thats suggests different issues there if the flood of bug reports is so vastest they cant even get to everything reported that was my experience as well and it sucked ---
**Author:** ![npalardy](https://ifnotnil.com/user_avatar/ifnotnil.com/npalardy/32/10_2.png) [@npalardy](https://ifnotnil.com/u/npalardy)\ **Post date:** [15 June 2022 17:23 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/account-suspended-no-constructive-purpose-to-their-actions-other-than-creating-dissent-within-the-community/2560/78 "2022-06-15T17:23:09Z")
> [@anon72844311](#): > > Norman puts in as many tickets as he used to, because he cares about the product. Because I get paid by people trying to USE the product that are affected by these bugs I don’t report them just for fun ---
**Author:** ![anon72844311](https://ifnotnil.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/9de0a6/32.png) [@anon72844311](https://ifnotnil.com/u/anon72844311)\ **Post date:** [15 June 2022 17:24 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/account-suspended-no-constructive-purpose-to-their-actions-other-than-creating-dissent-within-the-community/2560/79 "2022-06-15T17:24:54Z")
Hmmm right, they pay you to make tickets about asymmetrical methods or code folding artefacts or… ---
**Author:** ![HalGumbert](https://ifnotnil.com/user_avatar/ifnotnil.com/halgumbert/32/2198_2.png) [@HalGumbert](https://ifnotnil.com/u/HalGumbert)\ **Post date:** [15 June 2022 17:26 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/account-suspended-no-constructive-purpose-to-their-actions-other-than-creating-dissent-within-the-community/2560/80 "2022-06-15T17:26:32Z")
Julian is just trying to change the topic. ---
**Author:** ![anon72844311](https://ifnotnil.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/9de0a6/32.png) [@anon72844311](https://ifnotnil.com/u/anon72844311)\ **Post date:** [15 June 2022 17:27 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/account-suspended-no-constructive-purpose-to-their-actions-other-than-creating-dissent-within-the-community/2560/81 "2022-06-15T17:27:25Z")
No, I’m just responding to more strange answers… edit: well. not strange per se, as I know why, but whatevvvvvs ---
**Author:** ![npalardy](https://ifnotnil.com/user_avatar/ifnotnil.com/npalardy/32/10_2.png) [@npalardy](https://ifnotnil.com/u/npalardy)\ **Post date:** [15 June 2022 17:30 UTC](https://ifnotnil.com/t/account-suspended-no-constructive-purpose-to-their-actions-other-than-creating-dissent-within-the-community/2560/82 "2022-06-15T17:30:36Z")
Yes asymmetrical methods because we’re trying to USE remove and holy shit it doesnt do what copy & move do ! so I file a bug and make my own code folding because it annoys all of our little team [Previous page](https://ifnotnil.com/t/account-suspended-no-constructive-purpose-to-their-actions-other-than-creating-dissent-within-the-community/2560.md?page=3) [Next page](https://ifnotnil.com/t/account-suspended-no-constructive-purpose-to-their-actions-other-than-creating-dissent-within-the-community/2560.md?page=5)